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Interpretation

2024-08-02

Complex example with gap between clue giver and first response:

• A clues yellow4y,with a yellow 4clue,
• B does something unrelated
• C plays yellow1y,with a yellow 1clue,
• D plays black powder3,with a black powder 3clue, as yellow2y,with a yellow 2clue,
• E has yellow3y,with a yellow 3clue, marked

• Why isn't it layered? 🡆 Wrong question
• Should be thinking: can it be a bluff? / do I need to keep playing?
• Alice's view
• Donald's view

Endgame

3cards in the deck red3r,with a red 3clue, yellow4y,with a yellow 4clue, green5g,with a green 5clue, blue5b,with a blue 5clue, white1w,with a white 1clue, 3 clue tokens

card back,with a clue,card back,with a clue,card back4,with a 4clue,card back5,with a 5clue, Alice 🡲 white2w,with a white 2clue,black powder,with a black powder clue,black powder,with a black powder clue,black powder,with a black powder clue, Bob 🡲 black powder,with a black powder clue,black powder,with a black powder clue,red4r,with a red 4clue,white5w,with a white 5clue, Cathy 🡲 white3w,with a white 3clue,black powder,with a black powder clue,black powder,with a black powder clue,yellow5y,with a yellow 5clue, Donald 🡲 white4w,with a white 4clue,black powder,with a black powder clue,black powder,with a black powder clue,white3w,with a white 3clue, Emily 🡲

What is the critical colour?

Grouped by colour:

black powderA,with a black powder clue,black powderB,with a black powder clue,black powderC,with a black powder clue,yellow5yD,with a yellow 5clue,black powderE,with a black powder clue, ​

black powderA,with a black powder clue,black powderB,with a black powder clue,red4rC,with a red 4clue,black powderD,with a black powder clue,black powderE,with a black powder clue, ​ red5rA,with a red 5clue, ​

whitewA,with a white clue,white2wB,with a white 2clue,black powderC,with a black powder clue,black powderD,with a black powder clue,white3wE,with a white 3clue, ​ white4wA,with a white 4clue,black powderB,with a black powder clue,white5wC,with a white 5clue, ​

white (1 clue + 4 plays + 3 empty = 8 turns)

What is the critical card?

white2w,with a white 2clue,

What is the critical move?

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A) Alice clues Bob white2w,with a white 2clue, / white2w,with a white 2clue, hint: don't choose A

B) Alice clues Donald white3w,with a white 3clue, / white3w,with a white 3clue,

C) Alice clues Emily white4w,with a white 4clue, / white4w,with a white 4clue,

D) Alice discards white4w,with a white 4clue,

E) Alice (mis)plays white4w,with a white 4clue,

F) Alice discards slot 1

G) Alice (mis)plays slot 1

What is the maximum score?

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1. Group by colour:

black powderA,with a black powder clue,black powderB,with a black powder clue,black powderC,with a black powder clue,yellow5yD,with a yellow 5clue,black powderE,with a black powder clue, ​

black powderA,with a black powder clue,black powderB,with a black powder clue,red4rC,with a red 4clue,black powderD,with a black powder clue,black powderE,with a black powder clue, ​ red5rA,with a red 5clue, ​

whitewA,with a white clue,white2wB,with a white 2clue,black powderC,with a black powder clue,black powderD,with a black powder clue,white3wE,with a white 3clue, ​ white4wA,with a white 4clue,black powderB,with a black powder clue,white5wC,with a white 5clue, ​

2. Serialise:

whitewA,with a white clue,white2wB,with a white 2clue,red4rC,with a red 4clue,yellow5yD,with a yellow 5clue,white3wE,with a white 3clue, ​ white4wA,with a white 4clue,black powderB,with a black powder clue,white5wC,with a white 5clue,black powderD,with a black powder clue,black powderE,with a black powder clue, ​ red5rA,with a red 5clue, ​

3cards in the deck2cards in the deck1cards in the deck0cards in the deckcards in the deck ​ cards in the deckcards in the deckcards in the deckcards in the deck ​

• There are not enough turns for Alice to clue white2w,with a white 2clue, and play both white4w,with a white 4clue, and red5r,with a red 5clue,.
• Can Alice shorten the critical path?

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1. Group by colour:

black powderA,with a black powder clue,black powderB,with a black powder clue,black powderC,with a black powder clue,yellow5yD,with a yellow 5clue,black powderE,with a black powder clue, ​

black powderA,with a black powder clue,black powderB,with a black powder clue,red4rC,with a red 4clue,black powderD,with a black powder clue,black powderE,with a black powder clue, ​ red5rA,with a red 5clue, ​

whitewA,with a white clue,white2wB,with a white 2clue,black powderC,with a black powder clue,white3wD,with a white 3clue,white4wE,with a white 4clue, ​ black powderA,with a black powder clue,black powderB,with a black powder clue,white5wC,with a white 5clue, ​

2. Serialise:

whitewA,with a white clue,white2wB,with a white 2clue,red4rC,with a red 4clue,white3wD,with a white 3clue,white4wE,with a white 4clue, ​ red5rA,with a red 5clue,black powderB,with a black powder clue,white5wC,with a white 5clue,yellow5yD,with a yellow 5clue, ​

3cards in the deck2cards in the deck1cards in the deck0cards in the deckcards in the deck ​ cards in the deckcards in the deckcards in the deckcards in the deck ​

• Alice clues the unmarked white4w,with a white 4clue, in Emily's hand (finesse) so that Alice has one card fewer to play and shortens the critical path.

Solution

:A) Alice clues Bob white2w,with a white 2clue, / white2w,with a white 2clue, ❌ does not get the unmarked white3w,with a white 3clue, / white4w,with a white 4clue,

B) Alice clues Donald white3w,with a white 3clue, / white3w,with a white 3clue, ❌ does not get the unmarked white4w,with a white 4clue,

C) Alice clues Emily white4w,with a white 4clue, / white4w,with a white 4clue, ❌ does not get the unmarked white3w,with a white 3clue,

D) Alice discards white4w,with a white 4clue, ✅ finesses up to white4w,with a white 4clue,

E) Alice (mis)plays white4w,with a white 4clue, ❌ interpretation = [Gamehelphanabi#Advanced positional misplay]

F) Alice discards slot 1 ✅ Donald and Emily both see Alice could have clued instead white4w,with a white 4clue,

G) Alice (mis)plays slot 1 ❌ interpretation: [Gamehelphanabi#Advanced positional misplay]

Other possible options include trash push if both of Emily's other cards are the same rank (not 4) or colour (not white) e.g red1r,with a red 1clue,yellow1y,with a yellow 1clue, then Alice could clue red1r,with a red 1clue,yellow1y,with a yellow 1clue, to Emily.

That was a tough one. So here's an easier one:

2024-09-24

5cards in the deck red5r,with a red 5clue, yellow5y,with a yellow 5clue, green2g,with a green 2clue, blue3b,with a blue 3clue, white1w,with a white 1clue, black powder3,with a black powder 3clue, 3 clue tokens

5cards in the deck: black powder,with a black powder clue,white4w,with a white 4clue,white2w,with a white 2clue,black powder,with a black powder clue,black powder1,with a black powder 1clue,

black powder3,with a black powder 3clue,black powder2,with a black powder 2clue,black powder,with a black powder clue,black powder,with a black powder clue, Alice 🡲 white2w,with a white 2clue,multicolour1m,with a multicolour 1clue,green3g,with a green 3clue,green4g,with a green 4clue, Bob 🡲 black powder,with a black powder clue,black powder,with a black powder clue,blue5b,with a blue 5clue,blue4b,with a blue 4clue, Cathy 🡲 blue1b,with a blue 1clue,multicolour2m,with a multicolour 2clue,green5g,with a green 5clue,white5w,with a white 5clue, Donald 🡲 black powder,with a black powder clue,black powder,with a black powder clue,black powder,with a black powder clue,white3w,with a white 3clue, Emily 🡲

What is the critical colour?

Grouped by colour:

whitewA,with a white clue,green3gB,with a green 3clue,black powderC,with a black powder clue,black powderD,with a black powder clue,black powderE,with a black powder clue, ​ black powderA,with a black powder clue,green4gB,with a green 4clue,black powderC,with a black powder clue,green5gD,with a green 5clue, ​

whitewA,with a white clue,white2wB,with a white 2clue,black powderC,with a black powder clue,black powderD,with a black powder clue,white3wE,with a white 3clue, ​ black powderA,with a black powder clue,black powderB,with a black powder clue,white4wC,with a white 4clue,white5wD,with a white 5clue, ​

black powderA,with a black powder clue,black powderB,with a black powder clue,blue4bC,with a blue 4clue,black powderD,with a black powder clue,black powderE,with a black powder clue,​ black powderA,with a black powder clue,black powderB,with a black powder clue,blue5bC,with a blue 5clue, ​

black powderA,with a black powder clue,black powderB,with a black powder clue,black powderC,with a black powder clue,black powderD,with a black powder clue,black powderE,with a black powder clue, ​ black powder2A,with a black powder 2clue,black powderB,with a black powder clue,black powderC,with a black powder clue,black powderD,with a black powder clue,black powder1E,with a black powder 1clue, ​

• green (1 clue + 3 plays + 5 empty = 9 turns)
• white (1 clue + 4 plays + 4 empty = 9 turns)
• blue (2 plays + 6 empty = 8 turns)
• black (1 clue + 2 plays + 3 empty = 6 turns)

What is the critical card?

green3g,with a green 3clue, / white2w,with a white 2clue,

What is the critical move?

Alice clues white2w,with a white 2clue,multicolour1m,with a white 1clue,

If each player plays their marked cards, then currently there are not enough turns to play all cards.

What is the maximum score?

1. Group by colour:

whitewA,with a white clue,green3gB,with a green 3clue,black powderC,with a black powder clue,black powderD,with a black powder clue,black powderE,with a black powder clue, ​ black powderA,with a black powder clue,green4gB,with a green 4clue,black powderC,with a black powder clue,green5gD,with a green 5clue, ​

whitewA,with a white clue,white2wB,with a white 2clue,black powderC,with a black powder clue,black powderD,with a black powder clue,white3wE,with a white 3clue, ​ black powderA,with a black powder clue,black powderB,with a black powder clue,white4wC,with a white 4clue,white5wD,with a white 5clue, ​

black powderA,with a black powder clue,black powderB,with a black powder clue,blue4bC,with a blue 4clue,black powderD,with a black powder clue,black powderE,with a black powder clue,​ black powderA,with a black powder clue,black powderB,with a black powder clue,blue5bC,with a blue 5clue, ​

black powderA,with a black powder clue,black powderB,with a black powder clue,black powderC,with a black powder clue,black powderD,with a black powder clue,black powderE,with a black powder clue, ​ black powder2A,with a black powder 2clue,black powderB,with a black powder clue,black powderC,with a black powder clue,black powderD,with a black powder clue,black powder1E,with a black powder 1clue, ​

2. Serialise:

whitewA,with a white clue,white2wB,with a white 2clue,blue4bC,with a blue 4clue,black powderD,with a black powder clue,white3wE,with a white 3clue, ​ black powder2A,with a black powder 2clue,green3gB,with a green 3clue,white4wC,with a white 4clue,white5wD,with a white 5clue,black powder1E,with a black powder 1clue, ​ black powderA,with a black powder clue,black powderB,with a black powder clue,blue5bC,with a blue 5clue,green5gD,with a green 5clue, ​

5cards in the deck4cards in the deck3cards in the deck3cards in the deck2cards in the deck ​ 1cards in the deck0cards in the deckcards in the deckcards in the deckcards in the deck ​ cards in the deckcards in the deckcards in the deck ​

whitewA,with a white clue,green3gB,with a green 3clue,blue4bC,with a blue 4clue,black powderD,with a black powder clue,white3wE,with a white 3clue, ​ black powder2A,with a black powder 2clue,green4gB,with a green 4clue,white4wC,with a white 4clue,green5gD,with a green 5clue,black powder1E,with a black powder 1clue, ​ black powderA,with a black powder clue,black powderB,with a black powder clue,blue5bC,with a blue 5clue,white5wD,with a white 5clue, ​

5cards in the deck4cards in the deck3cards in the deck3cards in the deck2cards in the deck ​ 1cards in the deck0cards in the deckcards in the deckcards in the deckcards in the deck ​ cards in the deckcards in the deckcards in the deck ​

black powderA,with a black powder clue,green3gB,with a green 3clue,blue4bC,with a blue 4clue,black powderD,with a black powder clue,white3wE,with a white 3clue, ​ black powder2A,with a black powder 2clue,green4gB,with a green 4clue,white4wC,with a white 4clue,green5gD,with a green 5clue,black powder1E,with a black powder 1clue, ​ black powderA,with a black powder clue,black powderB,with a black powder clue,blue5bC,with a blue 5clue,white5wD,with a white 5clue, ​

3 clue tokensblack powderB,with a black powder clue,white4wC,with a white 4clue,black powderD,with a black powder clue,white2wE,with a white 2clue, ​ black powderA,with a black powder clue,black powder1B,with a black powder 1clue,black powderC,with a black powder clue,green5gD,with a green 5clue,black powderE,with a black powder clue, ​ black powderA,with a black powder clue,black powderB,with a black powder clue,blue5bC,with a blue 5clue,white5wD,with a white 5clue, ​

5cards in the deck4cards in the deck3cards in the deck3cards in the deck2cards in the deck ​ 1cards in the deck0cards in the deckcards in the deckcards in the deckcards in the deck ​ cards in the deckcards in the deckcards in the deck ​

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1. Group by colour:

black powderA,with a black powder clue,black powderB,with a black powder clue,black powderC,with a black powder clue,yellow5yD,with a yellow 5clue,black powderE,with a black powder clue, ​

black powderA,with a black powder clue,black powderB,with a black powder clue,red4rC,with a red 4clue,black powderD,with a black powder clue,black powderE,with a black powder clue, ​red5rA,with a red 5clue, ​

whitewA,with a white clue,white2wB,with a white 2clue,black powderC,with a black powder clue,white3wD,with a white 3clue,white4wE,with a white 4clue, ​ black powderA,with a black powder clue,black powderB,with a black powder clue,white5wC,with a white 5clue, ​

2. Serialise:

whitewA,with a white clue,white2wB,with a white 2clue,red4rC,with a red 4clue,white3wD,with a white 3clue,white4wE,with a white 4clue, ​ red5rA,with a red 5clue,black powderB,with a black powder clue,white5wC,with a white 5clue,yellow5yD,with a yellow 5clue, ​

3cards in the deck2cards in the deck1cards in the deck0cards in the deckcards in the deck ​ cards in the deck cards in the deckcards in the deckcards in the deck ​