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|title1=What is the critical colour? | |title1=What is the critical colour? | ||
|body1='''Grouped by colour:''' | |body1='''Grouped by colour:''' | ||
:{{cardholder|c={{y}}|{{Hk| | :{{cardholder|c={{y}}|{{Hk|p=A|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=B|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=C|d=#324}}{{Hy|5|p=D|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=E|d=#324}} }} | ||
:{{cardholder|c={{r}}|{{Hk| | :{{cardholder|c={{r}}|{{Hk|p=A}}{{Hk|p=B}}{{Hr|4|p=C}}{{Hk|p=D}}{{Hk|p=E}} }} {{cardholder|c={{r}}|{{Hr|5|p=A}} }} | ||
:{{cardholder|c={{w}}|{{Hw| | :{{cardholder|c={{w}}|{{Hw|p=A|d=#324|c=}}{{Hw|2|p=B|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=C|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=D|d=#324}}{{Hw|3|p=E|d=#324}} }} {{cardholder|c={{w}}|{{Hw|4|p=A|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=B|d=#324}}{{Hw|5|p=C|d=#324}} }} | ||
'''white''' (1 clue + 4 plays + 3 empty = 8 turns) | '''white''' (1 clue + 4 plays + 3 empty = 8 turns) | ||
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'''1. Group by colour:''' | '''1. Group by colour:''' | ||
:{{cardholder|c={{y}}|{{Hk| | :{{cardholder|c={{y}}|{{Hk|p=A|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=B|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=C|d=#324}}{{Hy|5|p=D|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=E|d=#324}} }} | ||
:{{cardholder|c={{r}}|{{Hk| | :{{cardholder|c={{r}}|{{Hk|p=A}}{{Hk|p=B}}{{Hr|4|p=C}}{{Hk|p=D}}{{Hk|p=E}} }} {{cardholder|c={{r}}|{{Hr|5|p=A}} }} | ||
:{{cardholder|c={{w}}|{{Hw| | :{{cardholder|c={{w}}|{{Hw|p=A|d=#324|c=}}{{Hw|2|p=B|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=C|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=D|d=#324}}{{Hw|3|p=E|d=#324}} }} {{cardholder|c={{w}}|{{Hw|4|p=A|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=B|d=#324}}{{Hw|5|p=C|d=#324}} }} | ||
'''2. Serialise:''' | '''2. Serialise:''' | ||
:{{cardholder|{{Hw| | :{{cardholder|{{Hw|p=A|c=}}{{Hw|2|p=B}}{{Hr|4|p=C}}{{Hy|5|p=D}}{{Hw|3|p=E}} }} {{cardholder|{{Hw|4|p=A}}{{Hk|p=B}}{{Hw|5|p=C}}{{Hk|p=D}}{{Hk|p=E}} }} {{cardholder|{{Hr|5|p=A}} }} | ||
:{{cardholder|{{HDeck|3| | :{{cardholder|{{HDeck|3|p=A}}{{HDeck|2|p=B}}{{HDeck|1|p=C}}{{HDeck|0|p=D}}{{HDeck|p=E}} }} {{cardholder|{{HDeck|p=A}}{{HDeck|p=B}}{{HDeck|p=C}}{{HDeck|p=D}} }} | ||
* There are not enough turns for Alice to clue {{Hw|2}} and play both {{Hw|4}} and {{Hr|5}}. | * There are not enough turns for Alice to clue {{Hw|2}} and play both {{Hw|4}} and {{Hr|5}}. | ||
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'''1. Group by colour:''' | '''1. Group by colour:''' | ||
:{{cardholder|c={{y}}|{{Hk| | :{{cardholder|c={{y}}|{{Hk|p=A|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=B|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=C|d=#324}}{{Hy|5|p=D|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=E|d=#324}} }} | ||
:{{cardholder|c={{r}}|{{Hk| | :{{cardholder|c={{r}}|{{Hk|p=A}}{{Hk|p=B}}{{Hr|4|p=C}}{{Hk|p=D}}{{Hk|p=E}} }} {{cardholder|c={{r}}|{{Hr|5|p=A}} }} | ||
:{{cardholder|c={{w}}|{{Hw| | :{{cardholder|c={{w}}|{{Hw|p=A|d=#324|c=}}{{Hw|2|p=B|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=C|d=#324}}{{Hw|3|p=D|d=#324}}{{Hw|4|p=E|d=#324}} }} {{cardholder|c={{w}}|{{Hk|p=A|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=B|d=#324}}{{Hw|5|p=C|d=#324}} }} | ||
'''2. Serialise:''' | '''2. Serialise:''' | ||
:{{cardholder|{{Hw| | :{{cardholder|{{Hw|p=A|c=}}{{Hw|2|p=B}}{{Hr|4|p=C}}{{Hw|3|p=D}}{{Hw|4|p=E}} }} {{cardholder|{{Hr|5|p=A}}{{Hk|p=B}}{{Hw|5|p=C}}{{Hy|5|p=D}} }} | ||
:{{cardholder|{{HDeck|3| | :{{cardholder|{{HDeck|3|p=A}}{{HDeck|2|p=B}}{{HDeck|1|p=C}}{{HDeck|0|p=D}}{{HDeck|p=E}} }} {{cardholder|{{HDeck|p=A}}{{HDeck|p=B}}{{HDeck|p=C}}{{HDeck|p=D}} }} | ||
* Alice clues the unmarked {{Hw|4}} in Emily's hand (finesse) so that Alice has one card fewer to play and shortens the critical path. | * Alice clues the unmarked {{Hw|4}} in Emily's hand (finesse) so that Alice has one card fewer to play and shortens the critical path. | ||
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|title1=What is the critical colour? | |title1=What is the critical colour? | ||
|body1='''Grouped by colour:''' | |body1='''Grouped by colour:''' | ||
: {{cardholder|{{Hw| | : {{cardholder|{{Hw|p=A|c=}}{{Hg|3|p=B}}{{Hk|p=C}}{{Hk|p=D}}{{Hk|p=E}} |c={{g}} }} {{cardholder|{{Hk|p=A}}{{Hg|4|p=B}}{{Hk|p=C}}{{Hg|5|p=D}} |c={{g}} }} | ||
: {{cardholder|{{Hw| | : {{cardholder|{{Hw|p=A|d=#324|c=}}{{Hw|2|p=B|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=C|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=D|d=#324}}{{Hw|3|p=E|d=#324}} |c={{w}} }} {{cardholder|{{Hk|p=A|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=B|d=#324}}{{Hw|4|p=C|d=#324}}{{Hw|5|p=D|d=#324}} |c={{w}} }} | ||
: {{cardholder|{{Hk| | : {{cardholder|{{Hk|p=A}}{{Hk|p=B}}{{Hb|4|p=C}}{{Hk|p=D}}{{Hk|p=E}}|c={{b}} }} {{cardholder|{{Hk|p=A}}{{Hk|p=B}}{{Hb|5|p=C}} |c={{b}} }} | ||
: {{cardholder|{{Hk| | : {{cardholder|{{Hk|p=A}}{{Hk|p=B}}{{Hk|p=C}}{{Hk|p=D}}{{Hk|p=E|n=}} }} {{cardholder|{{Hk|2|p=A}}{{Hk|p=B}}{{Hk|p=C}}{{Hk|p=D}}{{Hk|1|p=E}} }} | ||
* '''green''' (1 clue + 3 plays + 5 empty = 9 turns) | * '''green''' (1 clue + 3 plays + 5 empty = 9 turns) | ||
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'''1. Group by colour:''' | '''1. Group by colour:''' | ||
: {{cardholder|{{Hw| | : {{cardholder|{{Hw|p=A|c=}}{{Hg|3|p=B}}{{Hk|p=C}}{{Hk|p=D}}{{Hk|p=E}} |c={{g}} }} {{cardholder|{{Hk|p=A}}{{Hg|4|p=B}}{{Hk|p=C}}{{Hg|5|p=D}} |c={{g}} }} | ||
: {{cardholder|{{Hw| | : {{cardholder|{{Hw|p=A|d=#324|c=}}{{Hw|2|p=B|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=C|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=D|d=#324}}{{Hw|3|p=E|d=#324}} |c={{w}} }} {{cardholder|{{Hk|p=A|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=B|d=#324}}{{Hw|4|p=C|d=#324}}{{Hw|5|p=D|d=#324}} |c={{w}} }} | ||
: {{cardholder|{{Hk| | : {{cardholder|{{Hk|p=A}}{{Hk|p=B}}{{Hb|4|p=C}}{{Hk|p=D}}{{Hk|p=E}}|c={{b}} }} {{cardholder|{{Hk|p=A}}{{Hk|p=B}}{{Hb|5|p=C}} |c={{b}} }} | ||
: {{cardholder|{{Hk| | : {{cardholder|{{Hk|p=A}}{{Hk|p=B}}{{Hk|p=C}}{{Hk|p=D}}{{Hk|p=E|n=}} }} {{cardholder|{{Hk|2|p=A}}{{Hk|p=B}}{{Hk|p=C}}{{Hk|p=D}}{{Hk|1|p=E}} }} | ||
'''2. Serialise:''' | '''2. Serialise:''' | ||
: {{cardholder|{{Hw| | : {{cardholder|{{Hw|p=A|c=}}{{Hw|2|p=B}}{{Hb|4|p=C}}{{Hk|p=D|n=}}{{Hw|3|p=E}} }} {{cardholder|{{Hk|2|p=A}}{{Hg|3|p=B}}{{Hw|4|p=C}}{{Hw|5|p=D}}{{Hk|1|p=E}} }} {{cardholder|{{Hk|p=A}}{{Hk|p=B}}{{Hb|5|p=C}}{{Hg|5|p=D}} }} | ||
: {{cardholder|{{HDeck|5| | : {{cardholder|{{HDeck|5|p=A}}{{HDeck|4|p=B}}{{HDeck|3|p=C}}{{HDeck|3|p=D}}{{HDeck|2|p=E}} }} {{cardholder|{{HDeck|1|p=A}}{{HDeck|0|p=B}}{{HDeck|p=C}}{{HDeck|p=D}}{{HDeck|p=E}} }} {{cardholder|{{HDeck|p=A}}{{HDeck|p=B}}{{HDeck|p=C}} }} | ||
: {{cardholder|{{Hw| | : {{cardholder|{{Hw|p=A|c=}}{{Hg|3|p=B}}{{Hb|4|p=C}}{{Hk|p=D|n=}}{{Hw|3|p=E}} }} {{cardholder|{{Hk|2|p=A}}{{Hg|4|p=B}}{{Hw|4|p=C}}{{Hg|5|p=D}}{{Hk|1|p=E}} }} {{cardholder|{{Hk|p=A}}{{Hk|p=B}}{{Hb|5|p=C}}{{Hw|5|p=D}} }} | ||
: {{cardholder|{{HDeck|5| | : {{cardholder|{{HDeck|5|p=A}}{{HDeck|4|p=B}}{{HDeck|3|p=C}}{{HDeck|3|p=D}}{{HDeck|2|p=E}} }} {{cardholder|{{HDeck|1|p=A}}{{HDeck|0|p=B}}{{HDeck|p=C}}{{HDeck|p=D}}{{HDeck|p=E}} }} {{cardholder|{{HDeck|p=A}}{{HDeck|p=B}}{{HDeck|p=C}} }} | ||
: {{cardholder|{{Hk| | : {{cardholder|{{Hk|p=A|n=}}{{Hg|3|p=B}}{{Hb|4|p=C}}{{Hk|p=D|n=}}{{Hw|3|p=E}} }} {{cardholder|{{Hk|2|p=A}}{{Hg|4|p=B}}{{Hw|4|p=C}}{{Hg|5|p=D}}{{Hk|1|p=E}} }} {{cardholder|{{Hk|p=A}}{{Hk|p=B}}{{Hb|5|p=C}}{{Hw|5|p=D}} }} | ||
: {{cardholder|{{Hclue|3|size=1}}{{Hk| | : {{cardholder|{{Hclue|3|size=1}}{{Hk|p=B}}{{Hw|4|p=C}}{{Hk|p=D}}{{Hw|2|p=E}} }} {{cardholder|{{Hk|p=A}}{{Hk|1|p=B}}{{Hk|p=C}}{{Hg|5|p=D}}{{Hk|p=E}} }} {{cardholder|{{Hk|p=A}}{{Hk|p=B}}{{Hb|5|p=C}}{{Hw|5|p=D}} }} | ||
: {{cardholder|{{HDeck|5| | : {{cardholder|{{HDeck|5|p=A}}{{HDeck|4|p=B}}{{HDeck|3|p=C}}{{HDeck|3|p=D}}{{HDeck|2|p=E}} }} {{cardholder|{{HDeck|1|p=A}}{{HDeck|0|p=B}}{{HDeck|p=C}}{{HDeck|p=D}}{{HDeck|p=E}} }} {{cardholder|{{HDeck|p=A}}{{HDeck|p=B}}{{HDeck|p=C}} }} | ||
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'''1. Group by colour:''' | '''1. Group by colour:''' | ||
: {{cardholder|{{Hk| | : {{cardholder|{{Hk|p=A|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=B|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=C|d=#324}}{{Hy|5|p=D|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=E|d=#324}} |c={{y}} }} | ||
: {{cardholder|{{Hk| | : {{cardholder|{{Hk|p=A}}{{Hk|p=B}}{{Hr|4|p=C}}{{Hk|p=D}}{{Hk|p=E}} |c={{r}} | ||
}}{{cardholder|{{Hr|5| | }}{{cardholder|{{Hr|5|p=A}} |c={{r}} }} | ||
: {{cardholder|{{Hw| | : {{cardholder|{{Hw|p=A|d=#324|c=}}{{Hw|2|p=B|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=C|d=#324}}{{Hw|3|p=D|d=#324}}{{Hw|4|p=E|d=#324}} |c={{w}} }} {{cardholder|{{Hk|p=A|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=B|d=#324}}{{Hw|5|p=C|d=#324}} |c={{w}} }} | ||
'''2. Serialise:''' | '''2. Serialise:''' | ||
: {{cardholder|{{Hw| | : {{cardholder|{{Hw|p=A|c=}}{{Hw|2|p=B}}{{Hr|4|p=C}}{{Hw|3|p=D}}{{Hw|4|p=E}} }} {{cardholder|{{Hr|5|p=A}}{{Hk|p=B}}{{Hw|5|p=C}}{{Hy|5|p=D}} }} | ||
: {{cardholder|{{HDeck|3| | : {{cardholder|{{HDeck|3|p=A}}{{HDeck|2|p=B}}{{HDeck|1|p=C}}{{HDeck|0|p=D}}{{HDeck|p=E}} }} {{cardholder|{{HDeck|p=A}} {{HDeck|p=B}}{{HDeck|p=C}}{{HDeck|p=D}} }} | ||
}} | }} | ||
Revision as of 17:40, 23 June 2025
This page has extra examples from /Hanabi
⚠ Work in progress
Interpretation
2024-08-02
Complex example with gap between clue giver and first response:
- A clues yellow4,with a yellowclue,
- B does something unrelated
- C plays yellow1
- D plays black powder3 as yellow2
- E has yellow3 marked
- Why isn't it layered? 🡆 Wrong question
- Should be thinking: can it be a bluff? / do I need to keep playing?
- Alice's view
- Donald's view
Endgame
- cards in the deck3 red3 yellow4 green5 blue5 white1 3clue tokens
card backcard backcard back4,with a 4clue,card back5,with a 5clue, Alice 🡲 white2black powderblack powderblack powder Bob 🡲 black powderblack powderred4,with a red4clue,white5,with a white5clue, Cathy 🡲 white3black powderblack powderyellow5,with a yellow5clue, Donald 🡲 white4black powderblack powderwhite3,with a white3clue, Emily 🡲
- black powderblack powderblack powderyellow5black powder
- black powderblack powderred4black powderblack powder red5
- white,with a whiteclue,white2black powderblack powderwhite3 white4black powderwhite5
- A) Alice clues Bob white2,with a 2clue, / white2,with a whiteclue, hint: don't choose A
- B) Alice clues Donald white3,with a 3clue, / white3,with a whiteclue,
- C) Alice clues Emily white4,with a 4clue, / white4,with a whiteclue,
- D) Alice discards white4
- E) Alice (mis)plays white4
- F) Alice discards slot 1
- G) Alice (mis)plays slot 1
What is the maximum score?
- black powderblack powderblack powderyellow5black powder
- black powderblack powderred4black powderblack powder red5
- white,with a whiteclue,white2black powderblack powderwhite3 white4black powderwhite5
2. Serialise:
- white,with a whiteclue,white2red4yellow5white3 white4black powderwhite5black powderblack powder red5
- cards in the deck3cards in the deck2cards in the deck1cards in the deck0cards in the deck cards in the deckcards in the deckcards in the deckcards in the deck
- There are not enough turns for Alice to clue white2 and play both white4 and red5.
- Can Alice shorten the critical path?
- black powderblack powderblack powderyellow5black powder
- black powderblack powderred4black powderblack powder red5
- white,with a whiteclue,white2black powderwhite3white4 black powderblack powderwhite5
2. Serialise:
- white,with a whiteclue,white2red4white3white4 red5black powderwhite5yellow5
- cards in the deck3cards in the deck2cards in the deck1cards in the deck0cards in the deck cards in the deckcards in the deckcards in the deckcards in the deck
- Alice clues the unmarked white4 in Emily's hand (finesse) so that Alice has one card fewer to play and shortens the critical path.
- B) Alice clues Donald white3,with a 3clue, / white3,with a whiteclue, ❌ does not get the unmarked white4
- C) Alice clues Emily white4,with a 4clue, / white4,with a whiteclue, ❌ does not get the unmarked white3
- D) Alice discards white4 ✅ finesses up to white4
- E) Alice (mis)plays white4 ❌ interpretation = [Gamehelphanabi#Advanced positional misplay]
- F) Alice discards slot 1 ✅ Donald and Emily both see Alice could have clued instead white4
- G) Alice (mis)plays slot 1 ❌ interpretation: [Gamehelphanabi#Advanced positional misplay]
That was a tough one. So here's an easier one:
2024-09-24
- cards in the deck5 red5 yellow5 green2 blue3 white1 black powder3 3clue tokens
- cards in the deck5: black powderwhite4white2black powderblack powder1
black powder3black powder2black powderblack powder Alice 🡲 white2multicolour1,with a multicolourclue,green3,with a greenclue,green4,with a green4clue, Bob 🡲 black powderblack powderblue5,with a 5clue,blue4,with a blueclue, Cathy 🡲 blue1,with a blueclue,multicolour2,with a multicolourclue,green5white5,with a white5clue, Donald 🡲 black powderblack powderblack powderwhite3,with a 3clue, Emily 🡲
- white,with a whiteclue,green3black powderblack powderblack powder black powdergreen4black powdergreen5
- white,with a whiteclue,white2black powderblack powderwhite3 black powderblack powderwhite4white5
- black powderblack powderblue4black powderblack powder black powderblack powderblue5
- black powderblack powderblack powderblack powderblack powder,with a clue, black powder2black powderblack powderblack powderblack powder1
- green (1 clue + 3 plays + 5 empty = 9 turns)
- white (1 clue + 4 plays + 4 empty = 9 turns)
- blue (2 plays + 6 empty = 8 turns)
- black (1 clue + 2 plays + 3 empty = 6 turns)
If each player plays their marked cards, then currently there are not enough turns to play all cards.
What is the maximum score?
- white,with a whiteclue,green3black powderblack powderblack powder black powdergreen4black powdergreen5
- white,with a whiteclue,white2black powderblack powderwhite3 black powderblack powderwhite4white5
- black powderblack powderblue4black powderblack powder black powderblack powderblue5
- black powderblack powderblack powderblack powderblack powder,with a clue, black powder2black powderblack powderblack powderblack powder1
2. Serialise:
- white,with a whiteclue,white2blue4black powder,with a clue,white3 black powder2green3white4white5black powder1 black powderblack powderblue5green5
- cards in the deck5cards in the deck4cards in the deck3cards in the deck3cards in the deck2 cards in the deck1cards in the deck0cards in the deckcards in the deckcards in the deck cards in the deckcards in the deckcards in the deck
- white,with a whiteclue,green3blue4black powder,with a clue,white3 black powder2green4white4green5black powder1 black powderblack powderblue5white5
- cards in the deck5cards in the deck4cards in the deck3cards in the deck3cards in the deck2 cards in the deck1cards in the deck0cards in the deckcards in the deckcards in the deck cards in the deckcards in the deckcards in the deck
- black powder,with a clue,green3blue4black powder,with a clue,white3 black powder2green4white4green5black powder1 black powderblack powderblue5white5
- 3clue tokensblack powderwhite4black powderwhite2 black powderblack powder1black powdergreen5black powder black powderblack powderblue5white5
- cards in the deck5cards in the deck4cards in the deck3cards in the deck3cards in the deck2 cards in the deck1cards in the deck0cards in the deckcards in the deckcards in the deck cards in the deckcards in the deckcards in the deck
- black powderblack powderblack powderyellow5black powder
- black powderblack powderred4black powderblack powder red5
- white,with a whiteclue,white2black powderwhite3white4 black powderblack powderwhite5
2. Serialise:
- white,with a whiteclue,white2red4white3white4 red5black powderwhite5yellow5
- cards in the deck3cards in the deck2cards in the deck1cards in the deck0cards in the deck cards in the deck cards in the deckcards in the deckcards in the deck