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|title1=What is the critical colour? | |title1=What is the critical colour? | ||
|body1='''Grouped by colour:''' | |body1='''Grouped by colour:''' | ||
:{{cardholder| | :{{cardholder|b={{y}}|{{Hk|p=A|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=B|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=C|d=#324}}{{Hy|5|p=D|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=E|d=#324}} }} | ||
:{{cardholder| | :{{cardholder|b={{r}}|{{Hk|p=A}}{{Hk|p=B}}{{Hr|4|p=C}}{{Hk|p=D}}{{Hk|p=E}} }} {{cardholder|b={{r}}|{{Hr|5|p=A}} }} | ||
:{{cardholder| | :{{cardholder|b={{w}}|{{Hw|p=A|d=#324|c=}}{{Hw|2|p=B|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=C|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=D|d=#324}}{{Hw|3|p=E|d=#324}} }} {{cardholder|b={{w}}|{{Hw|4|p=A|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=B|d=#324}}{{Hw|5|p=C|d=#324}} }} | ||
'''white''' (1 clue + 4 plays + 3 empty = 8 turns) | '''white''' (1 clue + 4 plays + 3 empty = 8 turns) | ||
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'''1. Group by colour:''' | '''1. Group by colour:''' | ||
:{{cardholder| | :{{cardholder|b={{y}}|{{Hk|p=A|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=B|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=C|d=#324}}{{Hy|5|p=D|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=E|d=#324}} }} | ||
:{{cardholder| | :{{cardholder|b={{r}}|{{Hk|p=A}}{{Hk|p=B}}{{Hr|4|p=C}}{{Hk|p=D}}{{Hk|p=E}} }} {{cardholder|b={{r}}|{{Hr|5|p=A}} }} | ||
:{{cardholder| | :{{cardholder|b={{w}}|{{Hw|p=A|d=#324|c=}}{{Hw|2|p=B|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=C|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=D|d=#324}}{{Hw|3|p=E|d=#324}} }} {{cardholder|b={{w}}|{{Hw|4|p=A|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=B|d=#324}}{{Hw|5|p=C|d=#324}} }} | ||
'''2. Serialise:''' | '''2. Serialise:''' | ||
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'''1. Group by colour:''' | '''1. Group by colour:''' | ||
:{{cardholder| | :{{cardholder|b={{y}}|{{Hk|p=A|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=B|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=C|d=#324}}{{Hy|5|p=D|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=E|d=#324}} }} | ||
:{{cardholder| | :{{cardholder|b={{r}}|{{Hk|p=A}}{{Hk|p=B}}{{Hr|4|p=C}}{{Hk|p=D}}{{Hk|p=E}} }} {{cardholder|b={{r}}|{{Hr|5|p=A}} }} | ||
:{{cardholder| | :{{cardholder|b={{w}}|{{Hw|p=A|d=#324|c=}}{{Hw|2|p=B|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=C|d=#324}}{{Hw|3|p=D|d=#324}}{{Hw|4|p=E|d=#324}} }} {{cardholder|b={{w}}|{{Hk|p=A|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=B|d=#324}}{{Hw|5|p=C|d=#324}} }} | ||
'''2. Serialise:''' | '''2. Serialise:''' | ||
Latest revision as of 16:31, 1 August 2025
Extra examples from Sammy's Hanabi page
⚠ Work in progress
Interpretation
2025-07-05
red5white2,with a 2clue,red2,with a 2clue,yellow4 Alice 🡲
yellow2green1blue2multicolour4,with a multicolour4clue, Bob 🡲
multicolour1red4blue4black powder2,with a 2clue, Cathy 🡲
yellow1multicolour5,with a 5clue,white5,with a 5clue,yellow3,with a yellowclue, Donald 🡲
white2,with a 2clue, red2,with a 2clue, are known trash
yellow3,with a yellowclue, is known not trash
2024-08-02
Complex example with gap between clue giver and first response:
- A clues yellow4,with a yellowclue,
- B does something unrelated
- C plays yellow1
- D plays black powder3 as yellow2
- E has yellow3 marked
- Why isn't it layered? 🡆 Wrong question
- Should be thinking: can it be a bluff? / do I need to keep playing?
- Alice's view
- Donald's view
Endgame
- cards in the deck3 red3 yellow4 green5 blue5 white1 3clue tokens
card backcard backcard back4,with a 4clue,card back5,with a 5clue, Alice 🡲 white2black powderblack powderblack powder Bob 🡲 black powderblack powderred4,with a red4clue,white5,with a white5clue, Cathy 🡲 white3black powderblack powderyellow5,with a yellow5clue, Donald 🡲 white4black powderblack powderwhite3,with a white3clue, Emily 🡲
- black powderblack powderblack powderyellow5black powder
- black powderblack powderred4black powderblack powder red5
- white,with a whiteclue,white2black powderblack powderwhite3 white4black powderwhite5
- A) Alice clues Bob white2,with a 2clue, / white2,with a whiteclue, hint: don't choose A
- B) Alice clues Donald white3,with a 3clue, / white3,with a whiteclue,
- C) Alice clues Emily white4,with a 4clue, / white4,with a whiteclue,
- D) Alice discards white4
- E) Alice (mis)plays white4
- F) Alice discards slot 1
- G) Alice (mis)plays slot 1
What is the maximum score?
- black powderblack powderblack powderyellow5black powder
- black powderblack powderred4black powderblack powder red5
- white,with a whiteclue,white2black powderblack powderwhite3 white4black powderwhite5
2. Serialise:
- white,with a whiteclue,white2red4yellow5white3 white4black powderwhite5black powderblack powder red5
- cards in the deck3cards in the deck2cards in the deck1cards in the deck0cards in the deck cards in the deckcards in the deckcards in the deckcards in the deck
- There are not enough turns for Alice to clue white2 and play both white4 and red5.
- Can Alice shorten the critical path?
- black powderblack powderblack powderyellow5black powder
- black powderblack powderred4black powderblack powder red5
- white,with a whiteclue,white2black powderwhite3white4 black powderblack powderwhite5
2. Serialise:
- white,with a whiteclue,white2red4white3white4 red5black powderwhite5yellow5
- cards in the deck3cards in the deck2cards in the deck1cards in the deck0cards in the deck cards in the deckcards in the deckcards in the deckcards in the deck
- Alice clues the unmarked white4 in Emily's hand (finesse) so that Alice has one card fewer to play and shortens the critical path.
- B) Alice clues Donald white3,with a 3clue, / white3,with a whiteclue, ❌ does not get the unmarked white4
- C) Alice clues Emily white4,with a 4clue, / white4,with a whiteclue, ❌ does not get the unmarked white3
- D) Alice discards white4 ✅ finesses up to white4
- E) Alice (mis)plays white4 ❌ interpretation = [Gamehelphanabi#Advanced positional misplay]
- F) Alice discards slot 1 ✅ Donald and Emily both see Alice could have clued instead white4
- G) Alice (mis)plays slot 1 ❌ interpretation: [Gamehelphanabi#Advanced positional misplay]