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Extra examples from Sammy's '''[[User:Sammy_McSam/Hanabi|Hanabi page]]'''

{{pill|⚠ Work in progress|#fa8|#fc8|s=1|w=bold}}

== {{pill|Interpretation|#aff|#cfd}} ==


=== 2025-07-05 ===

<div style="display:flex;gap:1rem;"><div>
{{cardholder|{{Hr|5}}{{Hw|2|n=}}{{Hr|2|n=}}{{Hy|4}} |Alice 🡲}}

{{cardholder|{{Hy|2}}{{Hg|1}}{{Hb|2}}{{Hm|4|c=|n=}} |Bob 🡲}}

{{cardholder|{{Hm|1}}{{Hr|4}}{{Hb|4}}{{Hk|2|n=}} |Cathy 🡲}}

{{cardholder|{{Hy|1}}{{Hm|5|n=}}{{Hw|5|n=}}{{Hy|3|c=}} |Donald 🡲}}
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{{infoBox |color=#ddf |titleColor=#005
|title=Played
|body={{hr|2}} {{hy|1}} {{hg|1}} {{hb|2}} {{hw|2}} {{hm|2}} {{hk|3}}
}}
{{infoBox |color=#fdd |titleColor=#500
|title=Discarded
|body={{hr|4}} {{hy|3}} {{hg|4}} {{hb|3}} {{hb|1}} {{hw|1}} {{hk|4}} {{hk|2}}
}}
:[https://boardgamearena.com/archive/replay/250703-0920/?table=697080440&player=84994396&comments=84994396&goto=37 Alice's view]
:[https://boardgamearena.com/archive/replay/250703-0920/?table=697080440&player=85786974&comments=84994396&goto=37 Donald's view]
</div><div>
{{Hw|2|n=}} {{Hr|2|n=}} are known trash

{{hy|3|c=}} is known not trash
</div></div>

==== 2024-08-02 ====

Complex example with gap between clue giver and first response:
* A clues {{Hy|4|c=}}
* B does something unrelated
* C plays {{Hy|1}}
* D plays {{Hk|3}} as {{Hy|2}}
* E has {{Hy|3}} marked

* {{pill|Why isn't it layered?|#fa8|#fc8}} 🡆 Wrong question
* Should be thinking: {{pill|can it be a bluff?|#aff|#cfd}} / {{pill|do I need to keep playing?|#aff|#cfd}}
* [https://boardgamearena.com/archive/replay/240725-1000/?table=545167290&player=86691603&comments=84994396; Alice's view]
* [https://boardgamearena.com/archive/replay/240725-1000/?table=545167290&player=87540408&comments=84994396; Donald's view]

== {{pill|Endgame|#aff|#cfd}} ==

: {{HDeck|3}} {{Hr|3}} {{Hy|4}} {{Hg|5}} {{Hb|5}} {{Hw|1}} {{Hclue|3}}

{{cardholder|{{HBack}}{{HBack}}{{HBack|4|{{w}}|n=|c=}}{{HBack|5|{{r}}|n=|c=}} |Alice 🡲}}
{{cardholder|{{Hw|2}}{{Hk}}{{Hk}}{{Hk}} |Bob 🡲}}
{{cardholder|{{Hk}}{{Hk}}{{Hr|4|n=|c=}}{{Hw|5|n=|c=}} |Cathy 🡲}}
{{cardholder|{{Hw|3}}{{Hk}}{{Hk}}{{Hy|5|n=|c=}} |Donald 🡲}}
{{cardholder|{{Hw|4}}{{Hk}}{{Hk}}{{Hw|3|n=|c=}} |Emily 🡲}}

{{infoBoxes3 |minWidth=max-content |state=collapsed |color=rebeccapurple
|title1=What is the critical colour?
|body1='''Grouped by colour:'''
:{{cardholder|c={{y}}|{{Hk|p=A|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=B|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=C|d=#324}}{{Hy|5|p=D|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=E|d=#324}} }}
:{{cardholder|c={{r}}|{{Hk|p=A}}{{Hk|p=B}}{{Hr|4|p=C}}{{Hk|p=D}}{{Hk|p=E}} }} {{cardholder|c={{r}}|{{Hr|5|p=A}} }}
:{{cardholder|c={{w}}|{{Hw|p=A|d=#324|c=}}{{Hw|2|p=B|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=C|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=D|d=#324}}{{Hw|3|p=E|d=#324}} }} {{cardholder|c={{w}}|{{Hw|4|p=A|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=B|d=#324}}{{Hw|5|p=C|d=#324}} }}

'''white''' (1 clue + 4 plays + 3 empty = 8 turns)
|title2=What is the critical card?
|body2={{Hw|2}}

|title3=What is the critical move?
|body3=&ZeroWidthSpace;
:A) Alice clues Bob {{Hw|2|n=}} / {{Hw|2|c=}} hint: don't choose A
:B) Alice clues Donald {{Hw|3|n=}} / {{Hw|3|c=}}
:C) Alice clues Emily {{Hw|4|n=}} / {{Hw|4|c=}}
:D) Alice discards {{Hw|4}}
:E) Alice (mis)plays {{Hw|4}}
:F) Alice discards slot 1
:G) Alice (mis)plays slot 1
}}

==== What is the maximum score? ====

{{infoBoxes |maxWidth=400 |state=collapsed
|title1=29
|body1=
'''1. Group by colour:'''
:{{cardholder|c={{y}}|{{Hk|p=A|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=B|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=C|d=#324}}{{Hy|5|p=D|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=E|d=#324}} }}
:{{cardholder|c={{r}}|{{Hk|p=A}}{{Hk|p=B}}{{Hr|4|p=C}}{{Hk|p=D}}{{Hk|p=E}} }} {{cardholder|c={{r}}|{{Hr|5|p=A}} }}
:{{cardholder|c={{w}}|{{Hw|p=A|d=#324|c=}}{{Hw|2|p=B|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=C|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=D|d=#324}}{{Hw|3|p=E|d=#324}} }} {{cardholder|c={{w}}|{{Hw|4|p=A|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=B|d=#324}}{{Hw|5|p=C|d=#324}} }}

'''2. Serialise:'''
:{{cardholder|{{Hw|p=A|c=}}{{Hw|2|p=B}}{{Hr|4|p=C}}{{Hy|5|p=D}}{{Hw|3|p=E}} }} {{cardholder|{{Hw|4|p=A}}{{Hk|p=B}}{{Hw|5|p=C}}{{Hk|p=D}}{{Hk|p=E}} }} {{cardholder|{{Hr|5|p=A}} }}
:{{cardholder|{{HDeck|3|p=A}}{{HDeck|2|p=B}}{{HDeck|1|p=C}}{{HDeck|0|p=D}}{{HDeck|p=E}} }} {{cardholder|{{HDeck|p=A}}{{HDeck|p=B}}{{HDeck|p=C}}{{HDeck|p=D}} }}

* There are not enough turns for Alice to clue {{Hw|2}} and play both {{Hw|4}} and {{Hr|5}}.
* Can Alice shorten the critical path?

|title2=30
|body2=
'''1. Group by colour:'''
:{{cardholder|c={{y}}|{{Hk|p=A|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=B|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=C|d=#324}}{{Hy|5|p=D|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=E|d=#324}} }}
:{{cardholder|c={{r}}|{{Hk|p=A}}{{Hk|p=B}}{{Hr|4|p=C}}{{Hk|p=D}}{{Hk|p=E}} }} {{cardholder|c={{r}}|{{Hr|5|p=A}} }}
:{{cardholder|c={{w}}|{{Hw|p=A|d=#324|c=}}{{Hw|2|p=B|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=C|d=#324}}{{Hw|3|p=D|d=#324}}{{Hw|4|p=E|d=#324}} }} {{cardholder|c={{w}}|{{Hk|p=A|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=B|d=#324}}{{Hw|5|p=C|d=#324}} }}

'''2. Serialise:'''
:{{cardholder|{{Hw|p=A|c=}}{{Hw|2|p=B}}{{Hr|4|p=C}}{{Hw|3|p=D}}{{Hw|4|p=E}} }} {{cardholder|{{Hr|5|p=A}}{{Hk|p=B}}{{Hw|5|p=C}}{{Hy|5|p=D}} }}
:{{cardholder|{{HDeck|3|p=A}}{{HDeck|2|p=B}}{{HDeck|1|p=C}}{{HDeck|0|p=D}}{{HDeck|p=E}} }} {{cardholder|{{HDeck|p=A}}{{HDeck|p=B}}{{HDeck|p=C}}{{HDeck|p=D}} }}

* Alice clues the unmarked {{Hw|4}} in Emily's hand (finesse) so that Alice has one card fewer to play and shortens the critical path.

}}

{{infoBox |maxWidth= |state=collapsed |color=green
|title=Solution
|body=
:A) Alice clues Bob {{Hw|2|n=}} / {{Hw|2|c=}} ❌ does not get the unmarked {{Hw|3}} / {{Hw|4}}
:B) Alice clues Donald {{Hw|3|n=}} / {{Hw|3|c=}} ❌ does not get the unmarked {{Hw|4}}
:C) Alice clues Emily {{Hw|4|n=}} / {{Hw|4|c=}} ❌ does not get the unmarked {{Hw|3}}
:D) Alice discards {{Hw|4}} ✅ finesses up to {{Hw|4}}
:E) Alice (mis)plays {{Hw|4}} ❌ interpretation = [Gamehelphanabi#Advanced positional misplay]
:F) Alice discards slot 1 ✅ Donald and Emily both see Alice could have clued instead {{Hw|4}}
:G) Alice (mis)plays slot 1 ❌ interpretation: [Gamehelphanabi#Advanced positional misplay]

Other possible options include [https://en.doc.boardgamearena.com/index.php?title=User:Sammy_McSam/Hanabi/Examples#Advanced_Techniques trash push] if both of Emily's other cards are the same rank (not 4) or colour (not white) e.g {{Hr|1}}{{Hy|1}} then Alice could clue {{Hr|1|n=}}{{Hy|1|n=}} to Emily.
}}