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| {{pill|This page has extra examples from [https://en.doc.boardgamearena.com/User:Sammy_McSam/Hanabi /Hanabi]|bg1=#8f8|bg2=#8fae}}
| | Extra examples from Sammy's '''[[User:Sammy_McSam/Hanabi|Hanabi page]]''' |
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| {{pill|⚠ Work in progress|bg1=#fa8|bg2=#fc8|s=1|w=bold}} | | {{pill|⚠ Work in progress|#fa8|#fc8|s=1|w=bold}} |
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| == {{pill|Interpretation|bg1=#aff|bg2=#cfd}} == | | == {{pill|Interpretation|#aff|#cfd}} == |
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| | === 2025-07-05 === |
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| | <div style="display:flex;gap:1rem;"><div> |
| | {{cardholder|{{Hr|5}}{{Hw|2|n=}}{{Hr|2|n=}}{{Hy|4}} |Alice 🡲}} |
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| | {{cardholder|{{Hy|2}}{{Hg|1}}{{Hb|2}}{{Hm|4|c=|n=}} |Bob 🡲}} |
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| | {{cardholder|{{Hm|1}}{{Hr|4}}{{Hb|4}}{{Hk|2|n=}} |Cathy 🡲}} |
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| | {{cardholder|{{Hy|1}}{{Hm|5|n=}}{{Hw|5|n=}}{{Hy|3|c=}} |Donald 🡲}} |
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| | {{infoBox |color=#ddf |titleColor=#005 |
| | |title=Played |
| | |body={{hr|2}} {{hy|1}} {{hg|1}} {{hb|2}} {{hw|2}} {{hm|2}} {{hk|3}} |
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| | {{infoBox |color=#fdd |titleColor=#500 |
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| | |body={{hr|4}} {{hy|3}} {{hg|4}} {{hb|3}} {{hb|1}} {{hw|1}} {{hk|4}} {{hk|2}} |
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| | :[https://boardgamearena.com/archive/replay/250703-0920/?table=697080440&player=84994396&comments=84994396&goto=37 Alice's view] |
| | :[https://boardgamearena.com/archive/replay/250703-0920/?table=697080440&player=85786974&comments=84994396&goto=37 Donald's view] |
| | </div><div> |
| | {{Hw|2|n=}} {{Hr|2|n=}} are known trash |
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| | {{hy|3|c=}} is known not trash |
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| ==== 2024-08-02 ==== | | ==== 2024-08-02 ==== |
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| * E has {{Hy|3}} marked | | * E has {{Hy|3}} marked |
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| * {{pill|Why isn't it layered?|bg1=#fa8|bg2=#fc8}} 🡆 Wrong question | | * {{pill|Why isn't it layered?|#fa8|#fc8}} 🡆 Wrong question |
| * Should be thinking: {{pill|can it be a bluff?|bg1=#aff|bg2=#cfd}} / {{pill|do I need to keep playing?|bg1=#aff|bg2=#cfd}} | | * Should be thinking: {{pill|can it be a bluff?|#aff|#cfd}} / {{pill|do I need to keep playing?|#aff|#cfd}} |
| * [https://boardgamearena.com/archive/replay/240725-1000/?table=545167290&player=86691603&comments=84994396; Alice's view] | | * [https://boardgamearena.com/archive/replay/240725-1000/?table=545167290&player=86691603&comments=84994396; Alice's view] |
| * [https://boardgamearena.com/archive/replay/240725-1000/?table=545167290&player=87540408&comments=84994396; Donald's view] | | * [https://boardgamearena.com/archive/replay/240725-1000/?table=545167290&player=87540408&comments=84994396; Donald's view] |
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| == {{pill|Endgame|bg1=#aff|bg2=#cfd}} == | | == {{pill|Endgame|#aff|#cfd}} == |
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| : {{HDeck|3}} {{Hr|3}} {{Hy|4}} {{Hg|5}} {{Hb|5}} {{Hw|1}} {{Hclue|3}} | | : {{HDeck|3}} {{Hr|3}} {{Hy|4}} {{Hg|5}} {{Hb|5}} {{Hw|1}} {{Hclue|3}} |
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| |title1=What is the critical colour? | | |title1=What is the critical colour? |
| |body1='''Grouped by colour:''' | | |body1='''Grouped by colour:''' |
| :{{cardholder|c={{y}}|{{Hk|h=A|hc=#324}}{{Hk|h=B|hc=#324}}{{Hk|h=C|hc=#324}}{{Hy|5|h=D|hc=#324}}{{Hk|h=E|hc=#324}} }} | | :{{cardholder|b={{y}}|{{Hk|p=A|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=B|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=C|d=#324}}{{Hy|5|p=D|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=E|d=#324}} }} |
| :{{cardholder|c={{r}}|{{Hk|h=A}}{{Hk|h=B}}{{Hr|4|h=C}}{{Hk|h=D}}{{Hk|h=E}} }} {{cardholder|c={{r}}|{{Hr|5|h=A}} }} | | :{{cardholder|b={{r}}|{{Hk|p=A}}{{Hk|p=B}}{{Hr|4|p=C}}{{Hk|p=D}}{{Hk|p=E}} }} {{cardholder|b={{r}}|{{Hr|5|p=A}} }} |
| :{{cardholder|c={{w}}|{{Hw|h=A|hc=#324|c=}}{{Hw|2|h=B|hc=#324}}{{Hk|h=C|hc=#324}}{{Hk|h=D|hc=#324}}{{Hw|3|h=E|hc=#324}} }} {{cardholder|c={{w}}|{{Hw|4|h=A|hc=#324}}{{Hk|h=B|hc=#324}}{{Hw|5|h=C|hc=#324}} }} | | :{{cardholder|b={{w}}|{{Hw|p=A|d=#324|c=}}{{Hw|2|p=B|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=C|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=D|d=#324}}{{Hw|3|p=E|d=#324}} }} {{cardholder|b={{w}}|{{Hw|4|p=A|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=B|d=#324}}{{Hw|5|p=C|d=#324}} }} |
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| '''white''' (1 clue + 4 plays + 3 empty = 8 turns) | | '''white''' (1 clue + 4 plays + 3 empty = 8 turns) |
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| '''1. Group by colour:''' | | '''1. Group by colour:''' |
| :{{cardholder|c={{y}}|{{Hk|h=A|hc=#324}}{{Hk|h=B|hc=#324}}{{Hk|h=C|hc=#324}}{{Hy|5|h=D|hc=#324}}{{Hk|h=E|hc=#324}} }} | | :{{cardholder|b={{y}}|{{Hk|p=A|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=B|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=C|d=#324}}{{Hy|5|p=D|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=E|d=#324}} }} |
| :{{cardholder|c={{r}}|{{Hk|h=A}}{{Hk|h=B}}{{Hr|4|h=C}}{{Hk|h=D}}{{Hk|h=E}} }} {{cardholder|c={{r}}|{{Hr|5|h=A}} }} | | :{{cardholder|b={{r}}|{{Hk|p=A}}{{Hk|p=B}}{{Hr|4|p=C}}{{Hk|p=D}}{{Hk|p=E}} }} {{cardholder|b={{r}}|{{Hr|5|p=A}} }} |
| :{{cardholder|c={{w}}|{{Hw|h=A|hc=#324|c=}}{{Hw|2|h=B|hc=#324}}{{Hk|h=C|hc=#324}}{{Hk|h=D|hc=#324}}{{Hw|3|h=E|hc=#324}} }} {{cardholder|c={{w}}|{{Hw|4|h=A|hc=#324}}{{Hk|h=B|hc=#324}}{{Hw|5|h=C|hc=#324}} }} | | :{{cardholder|b={{w}}|{{Hw|p=A|d=#324|c=}}{{Hw|2|p=B|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=C|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=D|d=#324}}{{Hw|3|p=E|d=#324}} }} {{cardholder|b={{w}}|{{Hw|4|p=A|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=B|d=#324}}{{Hw|5|p=C|d=#324}} }} |
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| '''2. Serialise:''' | | '''2. Serialise:''' |
| :{{cardholder|{{Hw|h=A|c=}}{{Hw|2|h=B}}{{Hr|4|h=C}}{{Hy|5|h=D}}{{Hw|3|h=E}} }} {{cardholder|{{Hw|4|h=A}}{{Hk|h=B}}{{Hw|5|h=C}}{{Hk|h=D}}{{Hk|h=E}} }} {{cardholder|{{Hr|5|h=A}} }} | | :{{cardholder|{{Hw|p=A|c=}}{{Hw|2|p=B}}{{Hr|4|p=C}}{{Hy|5|p=D}}{{Hw|3|p=E}} }} {{cardholder|{{Hw|4|p=A}}{{Hk|p=B}}{{Hw|5|p=C}}{{Hk|p=D}}{{Hk|p=E}} }} {{cardholder|{{Hr|5|p=A}} }} |
| :{{cardholder|{{HDeck|3|h=A}}{{HDeck|2|h=B}}{{HDeck|1|h=C}}{{HDeck|0|h=D}}{{HDeck|h=E}} }} {{cardholder|{{HDeck|h=A}}{{HDeck|h=B}}{{HDeck|h=C}}{{HDeck|h=D}} }} | | :{{cardholder|{{HDeck|3|p=A}}{{HDeck|2|p=B}}{{HDeck|1|p=C}}{{HDeck|0|p=D}}{{HDeck|p=E}} }} {{cardholder|{{HDeck|p=A}}{{HDeck|p=B}}{{HDeck|p=C}}{{HDeck|p=D}} }} |
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| * There are not enough turns for Alice to clue {{Hw|2}} and play both {{Hw|4}} and {{Hr|5}}. | | * There are not enough turns for Alice to clue {{Hw|2}} and play both {{Hw|4}} and {{Hr|5}}. |
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| '''1. Group by colour:''' | | '''1. Group by colour:''' |
| :{{cardholder|c={{y}}|{{Hk|h=A|hc=#324}}{{Hk|h=B|hc=#324}}{{Hk|h=C|hc=#324}}{{Hy|5|h=D|hc=#324}}{{Hk|h=E|hc=#324}} }} | | :{{cardholder|b={{y}}|{{Hk|p=A|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=B|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=C|d=#324}}{{Hy|5|p=D|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=E|d=#324}} }} |
| :{{cardholder|c={{r}}|{{Hk|h=A}}{{Hk|h=B}}{{Hr|4|h=C}}{{Hk|h=D}}{{Hk|h=E}} }} {{cardholder|c={{r}}|{{Hr|5|h=A}} }} | | :{{cardholder|b={{r}}|{{Hk|p=A}}{{Hk|p=B}}{{Hr|4|p=C}}{{Hk|p=D}}{{Hk|p=E}} }} {{cardholder|b={{r}}|{{Hr|5|p=A}} }} |
| :{{cardholder|c={{w}}|{{Hw|h=A|hc=#324|c=}}{{Hw|2|h=B|hc=#324}}{{Hk|h=C|hc=#324}}{{Hw|3|h=D|hc=#324}}{{Hw|4|h=E|hc=#324}} }} {{cardholder|c={{w}}|{{Hk|h=A|hc=#324}}{{Hk|h=B|hc=#324}}{{Hw|5|h=C|hc=#324}} }} | | :{{cardholder|b={{w}}|{{Hw|p=A|d=#324|c=}}{{Hw|2|p=B|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=C|d=#324}}{{Hw|3|p=D|d=#324}}{{Hw|4|p=E|d=#324}} }} {{cardholder|b={{w}}|{{Hk|p=A|d=#324}}{{Hk|p=B|d=#324}}{{Hw|5|p=C|d=#324}} }} |
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| '''2. Serialise:''' | | '''2. Serialise:''' |
| :{{cardholder|{{Hw|h=A|c=}}{{Hw|2|h=B}}{{Hr|4|h=C}}{{Hw|3|h=D}}{{Hw|4|h=E}} }} {{cardholder|{{Hr|5|h=A}}{{Hk|h=B}}{{Hw|5|h=C}}{{Hy|5|h=D}} }} | | :{{cardholder|{{Hw|p=A|c=}}{{Hw|2|p=B}}{{Hr|4|p=C}}{{Hw|3|p=D}}{{Hw|4|p=E}} }} {{cardholder|{{Hr|5|p=A}}{{Hk|p=B}}{{Hw|5|p=C}}{{Hy|5|p=D}} }} |
| :{{cardholder|{{HDeck|3|h=A}}{{HDeck|2|h=B}}{{HDeck|1|h=C}}{{HDeck|0|h=D}}{{HDeck|h=E}} }} {{cardholder|{{HDeck|h=A}}{{HDeck|h=B}}{{HDeck|h=C}}{{HDeck|h=D}} }} | | :{{cardholder|{{HDeck|3|p=A}}{{HDeck|2|p=B}}{{HDeck|1|p=C}}{{HDeck|0|p=D}}{{HDeck|p=E}} }} {{cardholder|{{HDeck|p=A}}{{HDeck|p=B}}{{HDeck|p=C}}{{HDeck|p=D}} }} |
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| * Alice clues the unmarked {{Hw|4}} in Emily's hand (finesse) so that Alice has one card fewer to play and shortens the critical path. | | * Alice clues the unmarked {{Hw|4}} in Emily's hand (finesse) so that Alice has one card fewer to play and shortens the critical path. |
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| Other possible options include [https://en.doc.boardgamearena.com/index.php?title=User:Sammy_McSam/Hanabi/Examples#Advanced_Techniques trash push] if both of Emily's other cards are the same rank (not 4) or colour (not white) e.g {{Hr|1}}{{Hy|1}} then Alice could clue {{Hr|1|n=}}{{Hy|1|n=}} to Emily. | | Other possible options include [https://en.doc.boardgamearena.com/index.php?title=User:Sammy_McSam/Hanabi/Examples#Advanced_Techniques trash push] if both of Emily's other cards are the same rank (not 4) or colour (not white) e.g {{Hr|1}}{{Hy|1}} then Alice could clue {{Hr|1|n=}}{{Hy|1|n=}} to Emily. |
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| That was a tough one. So here's an easier one:
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| ==== 2024-09-24 ====
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| : {{HDeck|5}} {{Hr|5}} {{Hy|5}} {{Hg|2}} {{Hb|3}} {{Hw|1}} {{Hk|3}} {{Hclue|3}}
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| {{cardholder|{{Hk|3}}{{Hk|2}}{{Hk}}{{Hk}} |Alice 🡲}}
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| {{cardholder|{{Hw|2}}{{Hm|1|{{g}}|c=}}{{Hg|3|c=}}{{Hg|4|c=|n=}} |Bob 🡲}}
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| {{cardholder|{{Hk}}{{Hk}}{{Hb|5|n=}}{{Hb|4|c=}} |Cathy 🡲}}
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| {{cardholder|{{Hb|1|c=}}{{Hm|2|{{b}}|c=}}{{Hg|5}}{{Hw|5|n=|c=}} |Donald 🡲}}
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| {{cardholder|{{Hk}}{{Hk}}{{Hk}}{{Hw|3|n=}} |Emily 🡲}}
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| : {{cardholder|{{Hw|h=A|c=}}{{Hg|3|h=B}}{{Hk|h=C}}{{Hk|h=D}}{{Hk|h=E}} |c={{g}} }} {{cardholder|{{Hk|h=A}}{{Hg|4|h=B}}{{Hk|h=C}}{{Hg|5|h=D}} |c={{g}} }}
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| : {{cardholder|{{Hw|h=A|hc=#324|c=}}{{Hw|2|h=B|hc=#324}}{{Hk|h=C|hc=#324}}{{Hk|h=D|hc=#324}}{{Hw|3|h=E|hc=#324}} |c={{w}} }} {{cardholder|{{Hk|h=A|hc=#324}}{{Hk|h=B|hc=#324}}{{Hw|4|h=C|hc=#324}}{{Hw|5|h=D|hc=#324}} |c={{w}} }}
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| * '''green''' (1 clue + 3 plays + 5 empty = 9 turns)
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| * '''white''' (1 clue + 4 plays + 4 empty = 9 turns)
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| * '''blue''' (2 plays + 6 empty = 8 turns)
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| * '''black''' (1 clue + 2 plays + 3 empty = 6 turns)
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| |body2={{Hg|3}} / {{Hw|2}}
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| |body3=Alice clues {{Hw|2|c=}}{{Hm|1|{{w}}|white|c=}}
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| If each player plays their marked cards, then currently there are not enough turns to play all cards.
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| : {{cardholder|{{Hk|h=A|hc=#324}}{{Hk|h=B|hc=#324}}{{Hk|h=C|hc=#324}}{{Hy|5|h=D|hc=#324}}{{Hk|h=E|hc=#324}} |c={{y}} }}
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Extra examples from Sammy's Hanabi page
⚠ Work in progress
Interpretation
2025-07-05
red5r,with a red5clue,white2w,with a white2clue,red2r,with a red2clue,yellow4y,with a yellow4clue, Alice 🡲
yellow2y,with a yellow2clue,green1g,with a green1clue,blue2b,with a blue2clue,multicolour4m,with a multicolour4clue, Bob 🡲
multicolour1m,with a multicolour1clue,red4r,with a red4clue,blue4b,with a blue4clue,black powder2,with a black powder2clue, Cathy 🡲
yellow1y,with a yellow1clue,multicolour5m,with a multicolour5clue,white5w,with a white5clue,yellow3y,with a yellow3clue, Donald 🡲
Played
red2r,with a red2clue, yellow1y,with a yellow1clue, green1g,with a green1clue, blue2b,with a blue2clue, white2w,with a white2clue, multicolour2m,with a multicolour2clue, black powder3,with a black powder3clue,
Discarded
red4r,with a red4clue, yellow3y,with a yellow3clue, green4g,with a green4clue, blue3b,with a blue3clue, blue1b,with a blue1clue, white1w,with a white1clue, black powder4,with a black powder4clue, black powder2,with a black powder2clue,
- Alice's view
- Donald's view
white2w,with a white2clue, red2r,with a red2clue, are known trash
yellow3y,with a yellow3clue, is known not trash
2024-08-02
Complex example with gap between clue giver and first response:
- A clues yellow4y,with a yellow4clue,
- B does something unrelated
- C plays yellow1y,with a yellow1clue,
- D plays black powder3,with a black powder3clue, as yellow2y,with a yellow2clue,
- E has yellow3y,with a yellow3clue, marked
- Why isn't it layered? 🡆 Wrong question
- Should be thinking: can it be a bluff? / do I need to keep playing?
- Alice's view
- Donald's view
Endgame
- cards in the deck3,with a cards in the deck3clue, red3r,with a red3clue, yellow4y,with a yellow4clue, green5g,with a green5clue, blue5b,with a blue5clue, white1w,with a white1clue, 3clue tokens
card back,with a clue,card back,with a clue,card back4,with a 4clue,card back5,with a 5clue, Alice 🡲
white2w,with a white2clue,black powder,with a black powderclue,black powder,with a black powderclue,black powder,with a black powderclue, Bob 🡲
black powder,with a black powderclue,black powder,with a black powderclue,red4r,with a red4clue,white5w,with a white5clue, Cathy 🡲
white3w,with a white3clue,black powder,with a black powderclue,black powder,with a black powderclue,yellow5y,with a yellow5clue, Donald 🡲
white4w,with a white4clue,black powder,with a black powderclue,black powder,with a black powderclue,white3w,with a white3clue, Emily 🡲
What is the critical colour?
Grouped by colour:
- black powderA,with a black powderclue,black powderB,with a black powderclue,black powderC,with a black powderclue,yellow5yD,with a yellow5clue,black powderE,with a black powderclue,
- black powderA,with a black powderclue,black powderB,with a black powderclue,red4rC,with a red4clue,black powderD,with a black powderclue,black powderE,with a black powderclue, red5rA,with a red5clue,
- whitewA,with a whiteclue,white2wB,with a white2clue,black powderC,with a black powderclue,black powderD,with a black powderclue,white3wE,with a white3clue, white4wA,with a white4clue,black powderB,with a black powderclue,white5wC,with a white5clue,
white (1 clue + 4 plays + 3 empty = 8 turns)
What is the critical card?
white2w,with a white2clue,
What is the critical move?
- A) Alice clues Bob white2w,with a white2clue, / white2w,with a white2clue, hint: don't choose A
- B) Alice clues Donald white3w,with a white3clue, / white3w,with a white3clue,
- C) Alice clues Emily white4w,with a white4clue, / white4w,with a white4clue,
- D) Alice discards white4w,with a white4clue,
- E) Alice (mis)plays white4w,with a white4clue,
- F) Alice discards slot 1
- G) Alice (mis)plays slot 1
What is the maximum score?
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1. Group by colour:
- black powderA,with a black powderclue,black powderB,with a black powderclue,black powderC,with a black powderclue,yellow5yD,with a yellow5clue,black powderE,with a black powderclue,
- black powderA,with a black powderclue,black powderB,with a black powderclue,red4rC,with a red4clue,black powderD,with a black powderclue,black powderE,with a black powderclue, red5rA,with a red5clue,
- whitewA,with a whiteclue,white2wB,with a white2clue,black powderC,with a black powderclue,black powderD,with a black powderclue,white3wE,with a white3clue, white4wA,with a white4clue,black powderB,with a black powderclue,white5wC,with a white5clue,
2. Serialise:
- whitewA,with a whiteclue,white2wB,with a white2clue,red4rC,with a red4clue,yellow5yD,with a yellow5clue,white3wE,with a white3clue, white4wA,with a white4clue,black powderB,with a black powderclue,white5wC,with a white5clue,black powderD,with a black powderclue,black powderE,with a black powderclue, red5rA,with a red5clue,
- cards in the deck3,with a cards in the deck3clue,cards in the deck2,with a cards in the deck2clue,cards in the deck1,with a cards in the deck1clue,cards in the deck0,with a cards in the deck0clue,cards in the deck,with a cards in the deckclue, cards in the deck,with a cards in the deckclue,cards in the deck,with a cards in the deckclue,cards in the deck,with a cards in the deckclue,cards in the deck,with a cards in the deckclue,
- There are not enough turns for Alice to clue white2w,with a white2clue, and play both white4w,with a white4clue, and red5r,with a red5clue,.
- Can Alice shorten the critical path?
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1. Group by colour:
- black powderA,with a black powderclue,black powderB,with a black powderclue,black powderC,with a black powderclue,yellow5yD,with a yellow5clue,black powderE,with a black powderclue,
- black powderA,with a black powderclue,black powderB,with a black powderclue,red4rC,with a red4clue,black powderD,with a black powderclue,black powderE,with a black powderclue, red5rA,with a red5clue,
- whitewA,with a whiteclue,white2wB,with a white2clue,black powderC,with a black powderclue,white3wD,with a white3clue,white4wE,with a white4clue, black powderA,with a black powderclue,black powderB,with a black powderclue,white5wC,with a white5clue,
2. Serialise:
- whitewA,with a whiteclue,white2wB,with a white2clue,red4rC,with a red4clue,white3wD,with a white3clue,white4wE,with a white4clue, red5rA,with a red5clue,black powderB,with a black powderclue,white5wC,with a white5clue,yellow5yD,with a yellow5clue,
- cards in the deck3,with a cards in the deck3clue,cards in the deck2,with a cards in the deck2clue,cards in the deck1,with a cards in the deck1clue,cards in the deck0,with a cards in the deck0clue,cards in the deck,with a cards in the deckclue, cards in the deck,with a cards in the deckclue,cards in the deck,with a cards in the deckclue,cards in the deck,with a cards in the deckclue,cards in the deck,with a cards in the deckclue,
- Alice clues the unmarked white4w,with a white4clue, in Emily's hand (finesse) so that Alice has one card fewer to play and shortens the critical path.
Solution
:A) Alice clues Bob white2w,with a white2clue, / white2w,with a white2clue, ❌ does not get the unmarked white3w,with a white3clue, / white4w,with a white4clue,
- B) Alice clues Donald white3w,with a white3clue, / white3w,with a white3clue, ❌ does not get the unmarked white4w,with a white4clue,
- C) Alice clues Emily white4w,with a white4clue, / white4w,with a white4clue, ❌ does not get the unmarked white3w,with a white3clue,
- D) Alice discards white4w,with a white4clue, ✅ finesses up to white4w,with a white4clue,
- E) Alice (mis)plays white4w,with a white4clue, ❌ interpretation = [Gamehelphanabi#Advanced positional misplay]
- F) Alice discards slot 1 ✅ Donald and Emily both see Alice could have clued instead white4w,with a white4clue,
- G) Alice (mis)plays slot 1 ❌ interpretation: [Gamehelphanabi#Advanced positional misplay]
Other possible options include trash push if both of Emily's other cards are the same rank (not 4) or colour (not white) e.g red1r,with a red1clue,yellow1y,with a yellow1clue, then Alice could clue red1r,with a red1clue,yellow1y,with a yellow1clue, to Emily.