User:Sammy McSam/Hanabi/Examples page 2 - Revision history

Sammy McSam at 22:52, 3 October 2026

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 * discard of {{hy|3}} {{s:(}} and potentially locking Emily's hand {{s:(}}
 If Alice instead discards, Cathy could save {{hg|5}} and Emily may gain something to clue in Alice's hand, turning all {{s:(}} into {{s:)}}.
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 |d={{hm|3}}{{hm|3}}{{hr|1}}{{hb|2|c=}}
 |e={{hy|3}}{{hg|5}}{{hy|5|n=}}{{hw|5|n=}}
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 == <div style="background:linear-gradient(45deg,#aff,#cfd,#fff0 40rem);padding:.25rem .5rem;border-top-left-radius:.5rem;">Endgame</div> ==

Sammy McSam: Undo revision 31709 by Sammy McSam (talk)

2026-10-03T21:54:38Z

Undo revision 31709 by Sammy McSam (talk)

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	# repeat blue or 2 on {{hb\|2\|c=}} (which gives no new information on the target)		# repeat blue or 2 on {{hb\|2\|c=}} (which gives no new information on the target)
	# {{hr\|1}} trash bluff (which protects {{hy\|4}} for one extra turn)		# {{hr\|1}} trash bluff (which protects {{hy\|4}} for one extra turn)
	both options are low in value and not enough context for Bob to know that their slot 1 was ~~playable~~.		both options are low in value and not enough context for Bob to know that their slot 1 was unplayable.

	{{pill\|But why would Alice skip Bob with the {{hg\|3\|c=\|n=}} fix or the {{hg\|5\|n=}} save?\|#afa\|#cfc}}		{{pill\|But why would Alice skip Bob with the {{hg\|3\|c=\|n=}} fix or the {{hg\|5\|n=}} save?\|#afa\|#cfc}}

Sammy McSam at 21:53, 3 October 2026

2026-10-03T21:53:03Z

← Older revision		Revision as of 21:53, 3 October 2026
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	# repeat blue or 2 on {{hb\|2\|c=}} (which gives no new information on the target)		# repeat blue or 2 on {{hb\|2\|c=}} (which gives no new information on the target)
	# {{hr\|1}} trash bluff (which protects {{hy\|4}} for one extra turn)		# {{hr\|1}} trash bluff (which protects {{hy\|4}} for one extra turn)
	both options are low in value and not enough context for Bob to know that their slot 1 was ~~unplayable~~.		both options are low in value and not enough context for Bob to know that their slot 1 was playable.

	{{pill\|But why would Alice skip Bob with the {{hg\|3\|c=\|n=}} fix or the {{hg\|5\|n=}} save?\|#afa\|#cfc}}		{{pill\|But why would Alice skip Bob with the {{hg\|3\|c=\|n=}} fix or the {{hg\|5\|n=}} save?\|#afa\|#cfc}}

Sammy McSam at 21:23, 3 October 2026

2026-10-03T21:23:47Z

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 {{info|This is page 2 of [[User:Sammy_McSam/Hanabi/Examples|Hanabi Examples]]}}
 == <div style="background:linear-gradient(45deg,#aff,#cfd,#fff0 40rem);padding:.25rem .5rem;border-top-left-radius:.5rem;">Endgame</div> ==
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 :C) Alice clues Emily {{hw|4|n=}} / {{hw|4|c=}} ❌ does not get the unmarked {{hw|3}}
 :D) Alice discards {{hw|4}} ✅ finesses up to {{hw|4}}
-:E) Alice (mis)plays {{hw|4}} ❌ interpretation = [[Gamehelphanabi#Advanced|positional misplay]]
+:E) Alice (mis)plays {{hw|4}} ❌ interpretation = [[Tips_hanabi|positional misplay]]
 :F) Alice discards slot 1 ✅ Donald and Emily both see Alice could have clued instead {{hw|4}}
-:G) Alice (mis)plays slot 1 ❌ interpretation = [[Gamehelphanabi#Advanced|positional misplay]]
+:G) Alice (mis)plays slot 1 ❌ interpretation = [[Tips_hanabi|positional misplay]]
 Other possible options include [https://en.doc.boardgamearena.com/index.php?title=User:Sammy_McSam/Hanabi/Examples#Advanced_Techniques trash push] if both of Emily's other cards are the same rank (not 4) or colour (not white) e.g {{hr|1}} {{hy|1}} then Alice could clue {{hr|1|n=}} {{hy|1|n=}} to Emily's hand {{cardholder|{{hw|4}}{{hr|1|n=}}{{hy|1|n=}}{{hw|3|n=|c=}} |Emily 🡲}}
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Sammy McSam: Created page with "{{pill|⚠ Work in progress|#fa8|#fc8|s=1.2}} {{info|This is page 2 of Hanabi Examples}} ==
Endgame
== {{hTable|3|4|5|5|1|d=3}} {{Hclue|3}} {{cardholder|{{HBack}}{{HBack}}{{HBack|4|{{w}}|n=|c=}}{{HBack|5|{{r}}|n=|c=}} |Alice 🡲}} {{cardholder|{{hw|2}}{{hk}}{{hk}}{{hk}} |Bob 🡲}} {{cardholder|{{hk}}{{hk}}..."

2026-09-14T15:16:13Z

Created page with "{{pill|⚠ Work in progress|#fa8|#fc8|s=1.2}} {{info|This is page 2 of Hanabi Examples}} == <div style="background:linear-gradient(45deg,#aff,#cfd,#fff0 40rem);padding:.25rem .5rem;border-top-left-radius:.5rem;">Endgame</div> == {{hTable|3|4|5|5|1|d=3}} {{Hclue|3}} {{cardholder|{{HBack}}{{HBack}}{{HBack|4|{{w}}|n=|c=}}{{HBack|5|{{r}}|n=|c=}} |Alice 🡲}} {{cardholder|{{hw|2}}{{hk}}{{hk}}{{hk}} |Bob 🡲}} {{cardholder|{{hk}}{{hk}}..."

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{{pill|⚠ Work in progress|#fa8|#fc8|s=1.2}}
{{info|This is page 2 of [[User:Sammy_McSam/Hanabi/Examples|Hanabi Examples]]}}

== <div style="background:linear-gradient(45deg,#aff,#cfd,#fff0 40rem);padding:.25rem .5rem;border-top-left-radius:.5rem;">Endgame</div> ==

{{hTable|3|4|5|5|1|d=3}} {{Hclue|3}}

{{cardholder|{{HBack}}{{HBack}}{{HBack|4|{{w}}|n=|c=}}{{HBack|5|{{r}}|n=|c=}} |Alice 🡲}}
{{cardholder|{{hw|2}}{{hk}}{{hk}}{{hk}} |Bob 🡲}}
{{cardholder|{{hk}}{{hk}}{{hr|4|n=|c=}}{{hw|5|n=|c=}} |Cathy 🡲}}
{{cardholder|{{hw|3}}{{hk}}{{hk}}{{hy|5|n=|c=}} |Donald 🡲}}
{{cardholder|{{hw|4}}{{hk}}{{hk}}{{hw|3|n=|c=}} |Emily 🡲}}

{{infoBoxes3 |minWidth=max-content |state=collapsed |background=rebeccapurple
|title1=What is the critical colour?
|body1='''Grouped by colour:'''
:{{cardholder|b={{y}}|{{hk|p=A|d=#324}}{{hk|p=B|d=#324}}{{hk|p=C|d=#324}}{{hy|5|p=D|d=#324}}{{hk|p=E|d=#324}} }}
:{{cardholder|b={{r}}|{{hk|p=A}}{{hk|p=B}}{{hr|4|p=C}}{{hk|p=D}}{{hk|p=E}} }} {{cardholder|b={{r}}|{{hr|5|p=A}} }}
:{{cardholder|b={{w}}|{{hw|p=A|d=#324|c=}}{{hw|2|p=B|d=#324}}{{hk|p=C|d=#324}}{{hk|p=D|d=#324}}{{hw|3|p=E|d=#324}} }} {{cardholder|b={{w}}|{{hw|4|p=A|d=#324}}{{hk|p=B|d=#324}}{{hw|5|p=C|d=#324}} }}

'''white''' (1 clue + 4 plays + 3 empty = 8 turns)
|title2=What is the critical card?
|body2={{hw|2}}

|title3=What is the critical move?
|body3=&ZeroWidthSpace;
:A) Alice clues Bob {{hw|2|n=}} / {{hw|2|c=}}
::hint: don't choose A
:B) Alice clues Donald {{hw|3|n=}} / {{hw|3|c=}}
:C) Alice clues Emily {{hw|4|n=}} / {{hw|4|c=}}
:D) Alice discards {{hw|4}}
:E) Alice (mis)plays {{hw|4}}
:F) Alice discards slot 1
:G) Alice (mis)plays slot 1
}}

==== What is the maximum score? ====

{{infoBoxes |maxWidth=400 |state=collapsed
|title1=29
|body1=
'''1. Group by colour:'''
:{{cardholder|b={{y}}|{{hk|p=A|d=#324}}{{hk|p=B|d=#324}}{{hk|p=C|d=#324}}{{hy|5|p=D|d=#324}}{{hk|p=E|d=#324}} }}
:{{cardholder|b={{r}}|{{hk|p=A}}{{hk|p=B}}{{hr|4|p=C}}{{hk|p=D}}{{hk|p=E}} }} {{cardholder|b={{r}}|{{hr|5|p=A}} }}
:{{cardholder|b={{w}}|{{hw|p=A|d=#324|c=}}{{hw|2|p=B|d=#324}}{{hk|p=C|d=#324}}{{hk|p=D|d=#324}}{{hw|3|p=E|d=#324}} }} {{cardholder|b={{w}}|{{hw|4|p=A|d=#324}}{{hk|p=B|d=#324}}{{hw|5|p=C|d=#324}} }}

'''2. Serialise:'''
:{{cardholder|{{hw|p=A|c=}}{{hw|2|p=B}}{{hr|4|p=C}}{{hy|5|p=D}}{{hw|3|p=E}} }} {{cardholder|{{hw|4|p=A}}{{hk|p=B}}{{hw|5|p=C}}{{hk|p=D}}{{hk|p=E}} }} {{cardholder|{{hr|5|p=A}} }}
:{{cardholder|{{HDeck|3|p=A}}{{HDeck|2|p=B}}{{HDeck|1|p=C}}{{HDeck|0|p=D}}{{HDeck|p=E}} }} {{cardholder|{{HDeck|p=A}}{{HDeck|p=B}}{{HDeck|p=C}}{{HDeck|p=D}} }}

* There are not enough turns for Alice to clue {{hw|2}} and play both {{hw|4}} and {{hr|5}}.
* Can Alice shorten the critical path?

|title2=30
|body2=
'''1. Group by colour:'''
:{{cardholder|b={{y}}|{{hk|p=A|d=#324}}{{hk|p=B|d=#324}}{{hk|p=C|d=#324}}{{hy|5|p=D|d=#324}}{{hk|p=E|d=#324}} }}
:{{cardholder|b={{r}}|{{hk|p=A}}{{hk|p=B}}{{hr|4|p=C}}{{hk|p=D}}{{hk|p=E}} }} {{cardholder|b={{r}}|{{hr|5|p=A}} }}
:{{cardholder|b={{w}}|{{hw|p=A|d=#324|c=}}{{hw|2|p=B|d=#324}}{{hk|p=C|d=#324}}{{hw|3|p=D|d=#324}}{{hw|4|p=E|d=#324}} }} {{cardholder|b={{w}}|{{hk|p=A|d=#324}}{{hk|p=B|d=#324}}{{hw|5|p=C|d=#324}} }}

'''2. Serialise:'''
:{{cardholder|{{hw|p=A|c=}}{{hw|2|p=B}}{{hr|4|p=C}}{{hw|3|p=D}}{{hw|4|p=E}} }} {{cardholder|{{hr|5|p=A}}{{hk|p=B}}{{hw|5|p=C}}{{hy|5|p=D}} }}
:{{cardholder|{{HDeck|3|p=A}}{{HDeck|2|p=B}}{{HDeck|1|p=C}}{{HDeck|0|p=D}}{{HDeck|p=E}} }} {{cardholder|{{HDeck|p=A}}{{HDeck|p=B}}{{HDeck|p=C}}{{HDeck|p=D}} }}

* Alice clues the unmarked {{hw|4}} in Emily's hand (finesse) so that Alice has one card fewer to play and shortens the critical path.

}}

{{infoBox |maxWidth= |state=collapsed |background=green
|title=Solution
|body=&ZeroWidthSpace;
:A) Alice clues Bob {{hw|2|n=}} / {{hw|2|c=}} ❌ does not get the unmarked {{hw|3}} / {{hw|4}}
:B) Alice clues Donald {{hw|3|n=}} / {{hw|3|c=}} ❌ does not get the unmarked {{hw|4}}
:C) Alice clues Emily {{hw|4|n=}} / {{hw|4|c=}} ❌ does not get the unmarked {{hw|3}}
:D) Alice discards {{hw|4}} ✅ finesses up to {{hw|4}}
:E) Alice (mis)plays {{hw|4}} ❌ interpretation = [[Gamehelphanabi#Advanced|positional misplay]]
:F) Alice discards slot 1 ✅ Donald and Emily both see Alice could have clued instead {{hw|4}}
:G) Alice (mis)plays slot 1 ❌ interpretation = [[Gamehelphanabi#Advanced|positional misplay]]

Other possible options include [https://en.doc.boardgamearena.com/index.php?title=User:Sammy_McSam/Hanabi/Examples#Advanced_Techniques trash push] if both of Emily's other cards are the same rank (not 4) or colour (not white) e.g {{hr|1}} {{hy|1}} then Alice could clue {{hr|1|n=}} {{hy|1|n=}} to Emily's hand {{cardholder|{{hw|4}}{{hr|1|n=}}{{hy|1|n=}}{{hw|3|n=|c=}} |Emily 🡲}}
.
}}