Tips yokai - Revision history

Romain672: /* Summary: */

2025-07-05T15:20:02Z

Summary:

← Older revision		Revision as of 17:20, 5 July 2025
Line 7:		Line 7:

	During early game, you want to be obvious in what you did. During late game, you want to be effecient.		During early game, you want to be obvious in what you did. During late game, you want to be effecient.

	~~=== Summary: ===~~

	~~todo~~

	=== Peeking: ===		=== Peeking: ===

Romain672: /* Position of locking: */

2025-07-05T15:10:28Z

Position of locking:

← Older revision		Revision as of 17:10, 5 July 2025
Line 61:		Line 61:

	If you fully optimise, you want to lock a tile at the best position.		If you fully optimise, you want to lock a tile at the best position.
	But, you can use the position of the hint to convey extra information. If you got access to a green/red hint, and have 2 red and 1 green, you want to first lock your two reds, but give a place to put a card next to it, which would touch both your pair of red, and your green. That way, whatever card your teammate put next to it, it will be good. So, if you don't respect the previous rule, that ~~for me~~ mean you are in this specific case.		But, you can use the position of the hint to convey extra information. If you got access to a green/red hint, and have 2 red and 1 green, you want to first lock your two reds, but give a place to put a card next to it, which would touch both your pair of red, and your green. That way, whatever card your teammate put next to it, it will be good. So, if you don't respect the previous rule, that mean you are not in this specific case.
	And so depending of the move and position of lock done by the you, the other player can deduce differents things.		And so depending of the move and position of lock done by the you, the other player can deduce differents things.
	Furthermore, if you lock an already globally known tile, that should tell the others players you got one of the other colors nearby.		Furthermore, if you lock an already globally known tile, that should tell the others players you got one of the other colors nearby.

Romain672: +1tip

2022-08-19T10:57:16Z

+1tip

← Older revision		Revision as of 12:57, 19 August 2022
Line 63:		Line 63:
	But, you can use the position of the hint to convey extra information. If you got access to a green/red hint, and have 2 red and 1 green, you want to first lock your two reds, but give a place to put a card next to it, which would touch both your pair of red, and your green. That way, whatever card your teammate put next to it, it will be good. So, if you don't respect the previous rule, that for me mean you are in this specific case.		But, you can use the position of the hint to convey extra information. If you got access to a green/red hint, and have 2 red and 1 green, you want to first lock your two reds, but give a place to put a card next to it, which would touch both your pair of red, and your green. That way, whatever card your teammate put next to it, it will be good. So, if you don't respect the previous rule, that for me mean you are in this specific case.
	And so depending of the move and position of lock done by the you, the other player can deduce differents things.		And so depending of the move and position of lock done by the you, the other player can deduce differents things.
			Furthermore, if you lock an already globally known tile, that should tell the others players you got one of the other colors nearby.

	=== Points: ===		=== Points: ===

Romain672: /* Example of a game: */

2022-06-08T20:10:21Z

Example of a game:

← Older revision		Revision as of 22:10, 8 June 2022
Line 81:		Line 81:
	=== Example of a game: ===		=== Example of a game: ===

	Here is what I advice from the first turn of each player if they get differents tiles:[[File:Yokai-turn0.jpg]][[File:Yokai-turn2.jpg]][[File:Yokai-turn3.jpg]][[File:Yokai-turn6.jpg]]		Here is what I advice from the first turn of each player if they get differents tiles:
			[[File:Yokai-turn0.jpg]][[File:Yokai-turn2.jpg]][[File:Yokai-turn3.jpg]][[File:Yokai-turn6.jpg]]

	After that, it gets interresting. On this game:		After that, it gets interresting. On this game:
	[[File:Yokai-turn7.jpg]] as you can see, we got a blue and a yellow/red hint. This mean you can plan to lock your yellow tile. I would still look at c4 (bottom right of the yellow), then:
	[[File:Yokai-turn8-1.jpg]] here, peeking at a3 tell immediately that you want to insist on b3 which is good. Note that if that forth tile is green, you can create a green pair and still lock your two yellows, which tell your teammate you got two pairs.		[[File:Yokai-turn7.jpg]]
	[[File:Yokai-turn8-2.jpg]] here, it's totally awkward, you got a pair, so I suggest normally to peek at d4 in case you want to move d4 which still left you with two one away green. But only yellow would be good to move that early. So I will not enforce any move here since lots of move look similar in power level.
	[[File:Yokai-turn8-3.jpg]] you got the pair yellow/red. The goal is to try to get a yellow or red pair, and then lock it, while creating a space next to your pair and the other color. It's complicated, but I would peek at b4, trying to get a yellow or red, and if I get it, move the green up, and lock the first or third tile peeked (b3 or c4) which will make the hint close to the empty space c3 which will be adjacent to both yellow and red. If that tile is green, you can just create a green pair (b4>e3), and if it's blue again no good move to do.		as you can see, we got a blue and a yellow/red hint. This mean you can plan to lock your yellow tile. I would still look at c4 (bottom right of the yellow), then:
	[[File:Yokai-turn8-4.jpg]] finally if it's blue, nothing good to do, so I suggest to finish that +, and peek at c2.
			[[File:Yokai-turn8-1.jpg]]

			here, peeking at a3 tell immediately that you want to insist on b3 which is good. Note that if that forth tile is green, you can create a green pair and still lock your two yellows, which tell your teammate you got two pairs.

			[[File:Yokai-turn8-2.jpg]]

			here, it's totally awkward, you got a pair, so I suggest normally to peek at d4 in case you want to move d4 which still left you with two one away green. But only yellow would be good to move that early. So I will not enforce any move here since lots of move look similar in power level.

			[[File:Yokai-turn8-3.jpg]]

			you got the pair yellow/red. The goal is to try to get a yellow or red pair, and then lock it, while creating a space next to your pair and the other color. It's complicated, but I would peek at b4, trying to get a yellow or red, and if I get it, move the green up, and lock the first or third tile peeked (b3 or c4) which will make the hint close to the empty space c3 which will be adjacent to both yellow and red. If that tile is green, you can just create a green pair (b4>e3), and if it's blue again no good move to do.

			[[File:Yokai-turn8-4.jpg]]

			finally if it's blue, nothing good to do, so I suggest to finish that +, and peek at c2.

	=== Example of a 2 player start (outdated, but still good): ===		=== Example of a 2 player start (outdated, but still good): ===

Romain672: +1 section with screenshots

2022-06-08T20:09:08Z

+1 section with screenshots

← Older revision		Revision as of 22:09, 8 June 2022
Line 11:		Line 11:

	todo		todo
	~~Test: [[File:Yokai-turn7-1.jpg]]~~

	=== Peeking: ===		=== Peeking: ===
Line 79:		Line 78:
	# rrg: then the pair is 25% r (1/4)		# rrg: then the pair is 25% r (1/4)
	# rrr: then the pair is g (0)		# rrr: then the pair is g (0)

			=== Example of a game: ===

			Here is what I advice from the first turn of each player if they get differents tiles:[[File:Yokai-turn0.jpg]][[File:Yokai-turn2.jpg]][[File:Yokai-turn3.jpg]][[File:Yokai-turn6.jpg]]

			After that, it gets interresting. On this game:
			[[File:Yokai-turn7.jpg]] as you can see, we got a blue and a yellow/red hint. This mean you can plan to lock your yellow tile. I would still look at c4 (bottom right of the yellow), then:
			[[File:Yokai-turn8-1.jpg]] here, peeking at a3 tell immediately that you want to insist on b3 which is good. Note that if that forth tile is green, you can create a green pair and still lock your two yellows, which tell your teammate you got two pairs.
			[[File:Yokai-turn8-2.jpg]] here, it's totally awkward, you got a pair, so I suggest normally to peek at d4 in case you want to move d4 which still left you with two one away green. But only yellow would be good to move that early. So I will not enforce any move here since lots of move look similar in power level.
			[[File:Yokai-turn8-3.jpg]] you got the pair yellow/red. The goal is to try to get a yellow or red pair, and then lock it, while creating a space next to your pair and the other color. It's complicated, but I would peek at b4, trying to get a yellow or red, and if I get it, move the green up, and lock the first or third tile peeked (b3 or c4) which will make the hint close to the empty space c3 which will be adjacent to both yellow and red. If that tile is green, you can just create a green pair (b4>e3), and if it's blue again no good move to do.
			[[File:Yokai-turn8-4.jpg]] finally if it's blue, nothing good to do, so I suggest to finish that +, and peek at c2.

	=== Example of a 2 player start (outdated, but still good): ===		=== Example of a 2 player start (outdated, but still good): ===

Romain672: testing the file

2022-06-08T17:13:59Z

testing the file

← Older revision		Revision as of 19:13, 8 June 2022
Line 11:		Line 11:

	todo		todo
			Test: [[File:Yokai-turn7-1.jpg]]

	=== Peeking: ===		=== Peeking: ===

Romain672: +summary section todo & -1 sentence

2022-06-07T15:02:03Z

+summary section todo & -1 sentence

← Older revision		Revision as of 17:02, 7 June 2022
Line 8:		Line 8:
	During early game, you want to be obvious in what you did. During late game, you want to be effecient.		During early game, you want to be obvious in what you did. During late game, you want to be effecient.

	~~During mid game, the goal is to optimise the deplacement by trying to gain one turn by moving a card which will link cards of same colors which were one away or rarely two away.~~		=== Summary: ===

			todo

	=== Peeking: ===		=== Peeking: ===
Line 27:		Line 29:
	# put low priority on moving tiles which are one or two aways: you got the upside to have the possibilities to 'fill the gap' with the others cards of that type		# put low priority on moving tiles which are one or two aways: you got the upside to have the possibilities to 'fill the gap' with the others cards of that type
	# if you fully optimise and got more than one pair, put more value on moving your latter pair: if your teammates paid close attention to what you peeked at, they can deduce things from your weird second peek (since you already got one pair)		# if you fully optimise and got more than one pair, put more value on moving your latter pair: if your teammates paid close attention to what you peeked at, they can deduce things from your weird second peek (since you already got one pair)


	=== Hints meaning ===		=== Hints meaning ===
Line 62:		Line 63:
	But, you can use the position of the hint to convey extra information. If you got access to a green/red hint, and have 2 red and 1 green, you want to first lock your two reds, but give a place to put a card next to it, which would touch both your pair of red, and your green. That way, whatever card your teammate put next to it, it will be good. So, if you don't respect the previous rule, that for me mean you are in this specific case.		But, you can use the position of the hint to convey extra information. If you got access to a green/red hint, and have 2 red and 1 green, you want to first lock your two reds, but give a place to put a card next to it, which would touch both your pair of red, and your green. That way, whatever card your teammate put next to it, it will be good. So, if you don't respect the previous rule, that for me mean you are in this specific case.
	And so depending of the move and position of lock done by the you, the other player can deduce differents things.		And so depending of the move and position of lock done by the you, the other player can deduce differents things.

			=== Points: ===

			+5 per hint not drawn / +2 per hint not played / +1 per correct hint / -1 per incorrect hint
			So, if you think the game will end soon, you want to play hints instead of drawing them to maximise points.
			And so drawing while having at least one hint available mean you don't want the other player to declare. (Using an hint does not said the opposite though.)

	=== Probabilities: ===		=== Probabilities: ===

Romain672: /* Probabilities: */

2022-05-27T14:12:57Z

Probabilities:

← Older revision		Revision as of 16:12, 27 May 2022
Line 65:		Line 65:
	=== Probabilities: ===		=== Probabilities: ===

	Let's said your teammate saw 2 tiles, and locked them with red/green hint, if you find:		Let's said your teammate saw 2 tiles, and locked them with red/green hint, if you find
	- r: then the pair is 33% r (1/3)		# r: then the pair is 33% r (1/3)
	- rg or rrgg: then the pair is 50% r (1/2)		# rg or rrgg: then the pair is 50% r (1/2)
	- rr: then the pair is 14% r (1/7)		# rr: then the pair is 14% r (1/7)
	- rrg: then the pair is 25% r (1/4)		# rrg: then the pair is 25% r (1/4)
	- rrr: then the pair is g (0)		# rrr: then the pair is g (0)

	=== Example of a 2 player start (outdated, but still good): ===		=== Example of a 2 player start (outdated, but still good): ===

Romain672: +1tip: probabilities

2022-05-27T14:11:13Z

+1tip: probabilities

← Older revision		Revision as of 16:11, 27 May 2022
Line 62:		Line 62:
	But, you can use the position of the hint to convey extra information. If you got access to a green/red hint, and have 2 red and 1 green, you want to first lock your two reds, but give a place to put a card next to it, which would touch both your pair of red, and your green. That way, whatever card your teammate put next to it, it will be good. So, if you don't respect the previous rule, that for me mean you are in this specific case.		But, you can use the position of the hint to convey extra information. If you got access to a green/red hint, and have 2 red and 1 green, you want to first lock your two reds, but give a place to put a card next to it, which would touch both your pair of red, and your green. That way, whatever card your teammate put next to it, it will be good. So, if you don't respect the previous rule, that for me mean you are in this specific case.
	And so depending of the move and position of lock done by the you, the other player can deduce differents things.		And so depending of the move and position of lock done by the you, the other player can deduce differents things.

			=== Probabilities: ===

			Let's said your teammate saw 2 tiles, and locked them with red/green hint, if you find:
			- r: then the pair is 33% r (1/3)
			- rg or rrgg: then the pair is 50% r (1/2)
			- rr: then the pair is 14% r (1/7)
			- rrg: then the pair is 25% r (1/4)
			- rrr: then the pair is g (0)

	=== Example of a 2 player start (outdated, but still good): ===		=== Example of a 2 player start (outdated, but still good): ===

Romain672: /* Hints meaning */

2022-05-21T10:27:17Z

Hints meaning

← Older revision		Revision as of 12:27, 21 May 2022
Line 35:		Line 35:
	For the same reason, if a red/purple/green hint is available, and a red/purple is available, you can use the red/purple/green hint for 100% green.		For the same reason, if a red/purple/green hint is available, and a red/purple is available, you can use the red/purple/green hint for 100% green.

	Furthermore, if a red/purple/green hint is available, and a red/purple/blue hint is available, and no hint has been placed, locking a tile with a three color hint is bad, that don't give much informations. That mean, if you do it anyway, it's because you want to insist in the difference. So red/purple/green would be green, and red/purple/blue would be blue.		Furthermore, if a red/purple/green hint is available, and a red/purple/blue hint is available, and no hint has been placed, locking a tile with a three color hint is bad, that don't give much informations. That mean, if you do it anyway, it's because you want to insist in the difference. So red/purple/green would be green, and red/purple/blue would be blue. This work until another hint is drawn.

	But, if you got red/purple and red/green available, here you got value of locking some red. So here, the playstyle betweens players are differents, some would assume 100% purple and 100% green, while others would assume more like purple or green (mathematiquely it's at least 66%) but potentially red.		But, if you got red/purple and red/green available, here you got value of locking some red. So here, the playstyle betweens players are differents, some would assume 100% purple and 100% green, while others would assume more like purple or green (mathematiquely it's at least 66%) but potentially red.